Two years wasted on the Mueller Investigation. How will the media discredit President Trump next?

MichiganSpinDoctor

MichiganSpinDoctor

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Yeah, it's almost like he wanted to use the issue to draw contrast with the democrats and win the next election. Duh

Kind of like the democrats do with riling minorities up, telling them they are opressed, but never making the problems go away.
 
Fogdog

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MichiganSpinDoctor said:
You misunderstood me. I have no hate for anyone.
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I don't know you but I know that you keep repeating white supremacist propaganda and hate speech.

For example the line that black people commit more murders than white people do. I think you already agreed that the color of a person's skin has nothing to do with that statistic. There is plenty of evidence to back that up too. Yet you keep repeating the same thing. Skin color has nothing to do with murder rates except to white supremacists who use that false correlation to claim white superiority.

Also, why do you say the black people have no accountability? Or some claim about moral failure by black people? The only pattern I see is you keep linking skin color to outcomes that infer inferiority of black people.

as I said, I don't know you but I do know that you keep repeating white supremacist propaganda and hate speech. Unless you start learning the real causes of the problems you keep linking to skin color, I have to conclude that you are in fact white supremacist.
 
MichiganSpinDoctor

MichiganSpinDoctor

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Fogdog said:
I don't know you but I know that you keep repeating white supremacist propaganda and hate speech.

For example the line that black people commit more murders than white people do. I think you already agreed that the color of a person's skin has nothing to do with that statistic. There is plenty of evidence to back that up too. Yet you keep repeating the same thing. Skin color has nothing to do with murder rates except to white supremacists who use that false correlation to claim white superiority.

Also, why do you say the black people have no accountability? Or some claim about moral failure by black people? The only pattern I see is you keep linking skin color to outcomes that infer inferiority of black people.

as I said, I don't know you but I do know that you keep repeating white supremacist propaganda and hate speech. Unless you start learning the real causes of the problems you keep linking to skin color, I have to conclude that you are in fact white supremacist.
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Again, the reason we got to the subject in the first place is because mainstream democrats now support race based reparations, saying that racial injustice continues to this day in the US.

I say that this is incorrect. The disparities that democrats associate with racial injustice are the result of personal decisions and nature. They are not the result of racial injustice.

Since I want the disparities to shrink, like I assume you do, I want to encourage personal responsibility, the only thing that puts a person in charge of their own life. I do not want to encourage a false victim narrative.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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MichiganSpinDoctor said:
"The brick wall of privilege and institutional racism..." Lol. The invisible brick wall that only exists in the minds of democrats.

The only institutional racism in the US is affirmative action.

Institutional racism, what a crock. How is anyone supposed to go out and try, if they believe that BS?

"Stop stepping on them and offer them a hand" lol. A hand-out you mean. Ya that'll help. Totally devoid of truth. This attitude will only allow the black community to slide further. Personal responsibility is the only way out for them and folks like you tell them it's not their fault, they're being repressed. Sad.
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you don't think all the old boys get together and set policy among themselves? how much do you think a white man with an education gets for a job? how much do you think a black man with the same education will get for the same job? how much do you think a woman of any color with a better education will get for the same job?....if the word "same" is in your answer....try again, unless it's directly hooked to "not the"...
and who makes those decisions? who owns the corporations that own the holding companies that own the shells that are actually owned by off shore banks ....?
every single ceo of Ford since 1903 has been a white male
AT&T has 2 black males and 4 women, now. as little as 3 years ago, all white males...
GM has their first ever female ceo currently, before that, white males...
i'm a white male, but i've never been one of the elite, one of the privileged, i've never been asked to one of those meeting...but that doesn't mean they don't happen, they aren't democratic delusions...if they were, the answer to my original question would be "the same, they all get paid the same."
 
Fogdog

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MichiganSpinDoctor said:
Again, the reason we got to the subject in the first place is because mainstream democrats now support race based reparations, saying that racial injustice continues to this day in the US.

I say that this is incorrect. The disparities that democrats associate with racial injustice are the result of personal decisions and nature. They are not the result of racial injustice.

Since I want the disparities to shrink, like I assume you do, I want to encourage personal responsibility, the only thing that puts a person in charge of their own life. I do not want to encourage a false victim narrative.
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Dude, you are the one who linked race to murder rates. Typical right winger doesn't accept personal responsibility. "Oh it's the Democrats that made me say a dumb racist thing".

"I will build that wall and Mexico will pay for it".

Own those words man. The Democrats didn't make Trump say that.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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MichiganSpinDoctor said:
I do not want to encourage a false victim narrative.
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you think they choose to live in slums? in projects? you think they choose to not get the same pay as white men? you think they choose to go to substandard underfunded schools? to be picked over for lesser qualified people, because of the color of their skin?...
you think they're all lazy? that they all made the same poor choices? the entire race?
i'm trying to understand how you can live in the same world i live in and call it fair?
i'm an old white guy...i've never been a racist, but i have been a bigot...not the same thing, look it up...i'm trying to get over it, but even in the depth of my indulgence, i never once thought that we lived in a fair society.
 
MichiganSpinDoctor

MichiganSpinDoctor

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Fogdog said:
Dude, you are the one who linked race to murder rates. Typical right winger doesn't accept personal responsibility. "Oh it's the Democrats that made me say a dumb racist thing".

"I will build that wall and Mexico will pay for it".

Own those words man. The Democrats didn't make Trump say that.
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Democrats call black murder rates a symptom of their oppression. People have made statements along those lines on this forum.

The murder rates are not a symptom of oppression, and reparations would not help. Personal responsibility would help.

It was hilarious when trump said that. I never thought it would happen literally. Not for a minute.
 
MichiganSpinDoctor

MichiganSpinDoctor

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
you think they choose to live in slums? in projects? you think they choose to not get the same pay as white men? you think they choose to go to substandard underfunded schools? to be picked over for lesser qualified people, because of the color of their skin?...
you think they're all lazy? that they all made the same poor choices? the entire race?
i'm trying to understand how you can live in the same world i live in and call it fair?
i'm an old white guy...i've never been a racist, but i have been a bigot...not the same thing, look it up...i'm trying to get over it, but even in the depth of my indulgence, i never once thought that we lived in a fair society.
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Yeah they choose to live there just like everyone else. You think they are incapable of success because someone is holding them back? Nonsense. Every black person can succeed in the US. The only systemic racism is affirmative action.
 
MichiganSpinDoctor

MichiganSpinDoctor

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
you think they choose to live in slums? in projects? you think they choose to not get the same pay as white men? you think they choose to go to substandard underfunded schools? to be picked over for lesser qualified people, because of the color of their skin?...
you think they're all lazy? that they all made the same poor choices? the entire race?
i'm trying to understand how you can live in the same world i live in and call it fair?
i'm an old white guy...i've never been a racist, but i have been a bigot...not the same thing, look it up...i'm trying to get over it, but even in the depth of my indulgence, i never once thought that we lived in a fair society.
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Even I chose to live in a slum for a couple years. BECAUSE SLUMS ARE CHEAP.
 
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