LED strip gurus around here? Stop by and check out this vertical setup that needs tweaking!!

Sir420

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3 PLC strips on 6 or 9 1"ALU sheets 6' long
So that's 27 PLC strips per pvc vs 18... Something tells me I might be over doing something here...
 

Sir420

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Light fixture will be very friendly to where I can slide ALU sheets closer to canopy or further away (see page 1 for illustration)
 

Sir420

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21" x 72" x 20" is the cubic measure of straight canopy
I already did the formula and basically if the PVC was flat horizontal with 4 rows of 18 plants it would be 21"x 72" x 20" ... Ohh now that I'm looking at my diagram maybe it is 20"x72"x48"...
 

Sir420

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To figure out how much strips you really need depends on your grow area. You should calculate with 30-35w/sft and with "5ft PVC" its hard to calculate something. The best way to wire them is in parallel in this case you need an HLG-XXXH-20A or B or you connect each 2 in series and use an HLG-XXXH-42A or B and connect all the 2 strip strings in parallel. At 1000mA you still get +195lm/w and each strip would run with ~20w net, each 3 strips would cover 2sft with ~915μMol/s/m². Depending on the distance you can even get higher numbers. At 6" hanging height you would probably read more than 1000μMol/s.
Sqft isn't a good measure tool with vertical setups because the height is not factored into the equation
 

Sir420

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I just put the price together if I wanted 9 bars with 3 PLC strips that's 27 strips x $28 .. then I would need 2 drivers to split 700 watts & 27 strips in half.. then I would need 6-6.5' long ALU sheet at least 1" thick maybe less??? And I need x9 of those..
 

Sir420

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I didn't even factor in the top part of the fixture where they will hang from & rotate around PVC for 100% even light spread & distribution all around the buds even from the side angle the lights will be hanging from
 

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Hey just a crazy thought... What if I hooked up a heater to blow air inside PVC to have roots @ like 77F .. would it matter so much about actual room temperature???
 

Sir420

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Like it could be winter time & your leaves might be 60F but won't show stress signs since it's roots are warm...bongsmilie:blsmoke::bigjoint:
 

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May even be another form of manipulation to force super deep color out of flowers and frost while keeping roots at warmer temperatures to make it breathe more & drink more...
 

Randomblame

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I didn't even factor in the top part of the fixture where they will hang from & rotate around PVC for 100% even light spread & distribution all around the buds even from the side angle the lights will be hanging from
Yeah, an HLG-320 could be enough. It's for sure not really 33sft of canopy area. That what I've calculated was the outer surface area of a cylinder with diameter of 21" and a height of 72“. The inner area is for sure a lot smaller.
But sft or m² are the only way to calculate how much light you need.. also for vertical setups.
You're right, a light mover will optimize light usage so that you can get away with less watts per sft but it's still the way to calculate such things. You need to figure out the true diameter of the inner cylinder when covered with plants.
If the diameter is lets say 15" the outer surface area would be ~23,5sft and because of the light mover you could get away with 20-25w/sft maybe. In this case you could use an HLG-480 and up to 550w

It really depends on how much space the plants need inside the bird cages and how much surface area they cover when the stretch is done. Maybe it's better to have the bars hanging in a way that allows to also move the bars back and forth; closer to the canopy or farer away.
Weed grows like crazy and such a cylider covered with 20" high plants can easily burst such a small bird cage. They grow in the direction the light comes from and 20" is pretty small for an MJ plant. You're anyway already forced to use low stretching indikas with such a setup.
This plant below is grow from seed, strictly 12/12h, coco DTW and handwatering up to 5 times the day and she has still 4 weeks to go before she is finished. Only 21" high because of the small 16oz cup but that's already a bonsai lady. So that's the minimum height you should calculated with.

No1 getting a few early morning sun rays.jpg
Now imagine such a plant but lots of them growing in all 4 directions ... the outer diameter easily reach 45-50" or so. In this case such movable bars like describted above are neccessary otherwise there is no way to rotate the fixture as soon as the plants meet the bars.
I hope it's understandable so far what I mean cuz english isn't my 1st language/mother tongue. I really believe you need more space between the inner "root cylinder" and the rotating bars.
 

Sir420

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If I grow mother's in a separate area and cut clones @6" tall & throw immediately into 12/12 the plants will not grow over 20" tall.. I will be training them to grow single cola... Each net pot spaced 5-6" apart in all directions.. super tight, super packed...
 

Sir420

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@Randomblame look at my drawing and you will find my measurements.. the only thing that was incorrect is the diameter isn't 48" .. it's 58.6" which gives 6" clones 20" to grow && have 6" space between light which can most likely be closer...
 
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