drop and grow soil?

[Cyproz]

Looking for a kind of plug and play soil. Ill buy seperate nutes but i want a quality soil to start with from seed to harvest. so far just roots comes to mind.

 

[PURPLEB3RRYKUSH]

Looking for a kind of plug and play soil. Ill buy seperate nutes but i want a quality soil to start with from seed to harvest. so far just roots comes to mind.

I use Canna Terra at $30 a bag 50l plus $20 delivery from flebay. Expensive but works wonders. Plants stay green and need nothing but water till about day 60.

 

[Purpsmagurps]

roots is pretty neutral, if you use it make sure you throw in some ocean forest from FF about half and half. as well as 30% extra perlite and some dolomite lime to keep ph stable.

 

[ShLUbY]

Ocean Forest works great. I'm helping a friend with an organic grow and we've been water only for weeks in veg with the FFOF and no signs of slowing down. I have a mix of soil going for him and we're gonna bulk it with FFOF as well for flower. Should be killer

 

[PURPLEB3RRYKUSH]

Ocean Forest works great. I'm helping a friend with an organic grow and we've been water only for weeks in veg with the FFOF and no signs of slowing down. I have a mix of soil going for him and we're gonna bulk it with FFOF as well for flower. Should be killer

All i recommend is hotter soil on bottom, lighter soil on top, less risk of burning young seedlings

 

[ShLUbY]

All i recommend is hotter soil on bottom, lighter soil on top, less risk of burning young seedlings

unnecessary for most mixes really. I run my full strength organic mix for seeds with no issues, never witnessed a burnt seedling (or a burnt plant in general haha). it works for subcool because he puts sooooooo much shit in his soil. literally way more than you'd ever need for one plant. but to each their own... we all have different ways of getting into the finish line Cheers!

 

[meangreengrowinmachine]

unnecessary for most mixes really. I run my full strength organic mix for seeds with no issues, never witnessed a burnt seedling (or a burnt plant in general haha). it works for subcool because he puts sooooooo much shit in his soil. literally way more than you'd ever need for one plant. but to each their own... we all have different ways of getting into the finish line Cheers!

if you run ACTUAL organic soil and let it cook... there is no such thing as nute burn.. you are nit adding nutes the plant takes what it wants leaves what it doesnt from the Rhizosphere..... the phrase "organic nutrients" is soooo misleading... there is no such thing.. @ShLUbY I know preaching to the choir there

@Cyproz If you really wanna go organic go and read a shit ton on @ShLUbY threads or @DonTesla or the SIP threads lot of soil mixes in there.. mine included... a lot of people are playing with EM 1 and grokashi (myself included) atm .....

In short please dont buy into the Organic nutes hype. Organics is about feeding your soil.. and then your soil will feed your plants.... so much more then that but thats where to start (-: Welcome!

 

[ShLUbY]

if you run ACTUAL organic soil and let it cook... there is no such thing as nute burn.. you are nit adding nutes the plant takes what it wants leaves what it doesnt from the Rhizosphere..... the phrase "organic nutrients" is soooo misleading... there is no such thing.. @ShLUbY I know preaching to the choir there

@Cyproz If you really wanna go organic go and read a shit ton on @ShLUbY threads or @DonTesla or the SIP threads lot of soil mixes in there.. mine included... a lot of people are playing with EM 1 and grokashi (myself included) atm .....

In short please dont buy into the Organic nutes hype. Organics is about feeding your soil.. and then your soil will feed your plants.... so much more then that but thats where to start (-: Welcome!

yessir, couldn't be more accurate.

have you heard that mountainorganics is running a soil mix that is basically just the base mix plus a combination of rock dusts and crushing it? I was hearing about it on a youtube organic panel from the regenerative organic cannabis tour. I mean think about it... soil is parent material and organic matter from plants/animals. so just as elaine ingham teaches that your parent material should have all the necessary minerals required for a grow; all the macro and micro nutrients. I want to go over to grass city and see if he's posting about this mix and what he's doing with it. really interested in it. I need to get back to no-tilling. So tired of busting up root balls and recycling mixes and disturbing/destroying microbial networks and aggregates.

 

[meangreengrowinmachine]

yessir, couldn't be more accurate.

have you heard that mountainorganics is running a soil mix that is basically just the base mix plus a combination of rock dusts and crushing it? I was hearing about it on a youtube organic panel from the regenerative organic cannabis tour. I mean think about it... soil is parent material and organic matter from plants/animals. so just as elaine ingham teaches that your parent material should have all the necessary minerals required for a grow; all the macro and micro nutrients. I want to go over to grass city and see if he's posting about this mix and what he's doing with it. really interested in it. I need to get back to no-tilling. So tired of busting up root balls and recycling mixes and disturbing/destroying microbial networks and aggregates.

I guess I dont follow a lot of that kind of stuff and dont know who mountain organics even is lol I am pretty small time and mostly make my own soils and have a lot of animals of my own for inputs.. as far as no tilling I am trying to get there but indoor I really think it is hard in containers. If you are in an outdoor situation my god yes no till probiotic living soil is THE BEST! but be careful... your plants will be HUGE!!! lol

 

[ShLUbY]

I guess I dont follow a lot of that kind of stuff and dont know who mountain organics even is lol I am pretty small time and mostly make my own soils and have a lot of animals of my own for inputs.. as far as no tilling I am trying to get there but indoor I really think it is hard in containers. If you are in an outdoor situation my god yes no till probiotic living soil is THE BEST! but be careful... your plants will be HUGE!!! lol

always something to be learned and yeah... no till is kinda hard given my ceiling clearance... merely 7ft so it gets kinda tough, but I think with proper canopy management I should have no problems. Just gotta keep em smaller and maximize my effective light penetration anyway. you can grow a 5ft plant but if you have 600w SE like I do... you only get 16-20" of penetration anyway so why grow 5ft? i'll tell you why... keeping too many cultivars around LOL. I generally light to grow 1 cultivar per light, so having 6-8 cultivars in house makes it kinda hard to keep plants smaller haha.

 

[Cyproz]

i think i may take the extra effort then to make a smaller batch of subcools soil recipe

 

[Serverchris]

yessir, couldn't be more accurate.

have you heard that mountainorganics is running a soil mix that is basically just the base mix plus a combination of rock dusts and crushing it? I was hearing about it on a youtube organic panel from the regenerative organic cannabis tour. I mean think about it... soil is parent material and organic matter from plants/animals. so just as elaine ingham teaches that your parent material should have all the necessary minerals required for a grow; all the macro and micro nutrients. I want to go over to grass city and see if he's posting about this mix and what he's doing with it. really interested in it. I need to get back to no-tilling. So tired of busting up root balls and recycling mixes and disturbing/destroying microbial networks and aggregates.

I saw that, I think the mix was 50% peat, 40% worm castings, 10% biochar, and 8 cups volcanic rock dust per cubic foot. Also said that worms were used for aeration.

 

[ShLUbY]

I saw that, I think the mix was 50% peat, 40% worm castings, 10% biochar, and 8 cups volcanic rock dust per cubic foot. Also said that worms were used for aeration.

oh shit sweet. thanks for sharing that dude. I think to run a soil like that you'd need like perfect biology in order to keep plants healthy. thinking about trying to run that mix later this year and see what happens. 1 no till pot of it wont hurt