Steakbomb's Quantum Closet

Or_Gro

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Looks like I have a potential excess of P or K going on with the left plant - but given I am switching to bloom tomorrow I'm not sure I should worry too much. Once buds start forming they'll need a lot more of each.
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I also realize now that excess P & K can both contribute to squat growth. I may adjust my Base:Grow ratio for the next grow...
What’s temp and humidity?
 

Or_Gro

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RH around 40% and temp around 75°F
With humidity that low your plants can’t handle “normal” ppm...def contributing to compact plants, too long and they will be unable to grow to full potential.. . Check out bottom right plants in each of my smackdown tents...
 
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Steakbomb

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Here is what i’m now using to get rh up:

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Got a 4L right next to the cab - similar device but looks different. 40% is probably close to as high as I can get it. It has likely already been too long - growing in the winter in New England w/o a fully isolated area is a challenge.

Managing RH is gonna be way easier in the new room. The humidifier I'm using now is basically attempting to humidify my entire basement. Won't fit in the cab either....
 

Or_Gro

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Got a 4L right next to the cab - similar device but looks different. 40% is probably close to as high as I can get it. It has likely already been too long - growing in the winter in New England w/o a fully isolated area is a challenge.

Managing RH is gonna be way easier in the new room. The humidifier I'm using now is basically attempting to humidify my entire basement. Won't fit in the cab either....
Run some flexible hvac hose from outlet to cab hole...
 

Steakbomb

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Flip day has arrived. Here is the schedule - I'll add the QB18s to the QB288 time cycle in 2-3wks after they stretch.
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Current PPFD at the top of the canopy - will be dialing up soon...
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And the plants:
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Gonna do some trimming tomorrow to remove a few extra tops & to get ready to tie them down a bit again.
 

Or_Gro

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Flip day has arrived. Here is the schedule - I'll add the QB18s to the QB288 time cycle in 2-3wks after they stretch.
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Current PPFD at the top of the canopy - will be dialing up soon...
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And the plants:
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Gonna do some trimming tomorrow to remove a few extra tops & to get ready to tie them down a bit again.
Lookin good!

If you haven’t, you might want to consider Daily Light Integral (DLI)...

if you have been doing 600ppfd for 18 hrs/day, that is ~39 dli.

If ppfd at flip is anything less than 900, plants will be getting less light than before flip.

https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/blogs/news/converting-ppfd-to-dli
 

Steakbomb

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Lookin good!

If you haven’t, you might want to consider Daily Light Integral (DLI)...

if you have been doing 600ppfd for 18 hrs/day, that is ~39 dli.

If ppfd at flip is anything less than 900, plants will be getting less light than before flip.

https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/blogs/news/converting-ppfd-to-dli
Interesting... I've been doing the 600 for 20hrs - which is 43.2. 900 for 13.5hrs shakes out to 43.74.

I suppose I'll make a small adjustment today - maybe to 700 (the lights did still turn on at 3am), then dial it up to 900 tomorrow.
 

Steakbomb

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Adjustment 1 done. I tried to make the ppfd gain mainly by lowering the light - trying to not go nuts on the wattage yet - although I have found they can pull about 380w at max with this driver. The nice thing about centering the boards over each bucket is the ppfd on each plant is still pretty close.
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I'll have to make sure this evening that the pucks provide sufficient coverage at this height.
 

Or_Gro

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I'd like to target the 1100ish ppfd you've been doing, but my humidity level challenge may not let me get quite there...
I think pretty soon your plants will be big enuff and growing fast enuff that their transpiration rate will change rh equilibrium...i turned off the humidifier on each tent this morning, hoping to maintain 55-65% rh from transpiration alone, then switch to dehumid...
 

Steakbomb

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I think pretty soon your plants will be big enuff and growing fast enuff that their transpiration rate will change rh equilibrium...i turned off the humidifier on each tent this morning, hoping to maintain 55-65% rh from transpiration alone, then switch to dehumid...
They're getting there, actually. The 40-45% range I'm in now is an improvement over the 30-40% range I was living with for the last couple months.
 

Or_Gro

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I think pretty soon your plants will be big enuff and growing fast enuff that their transpiration rate will change rh equilibrium...i turned off the humidifier on each tent this morning, hoping to maintain 55-65% rh from transpiration alone, then switch to dehumid...
From each smackdown tent, no humidifiers since lightsout yesterday:

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Two days ago the rh’s w/o humidifiers were in upper 30 to low 40% range...mother nature is amazing...

Who says there’s no such thing as climate change, as we deforest and pump co2 into our global greenhouse...
 

led1k

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Steakbomb

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Far red cycle is confirmed working... @Or_Gro - how is this for coverage on the pucks? Center vs edge readings... enough to do the job?
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As much as I really don't want to, I'm considering disconnecting the rails that hold the pucks and spreading them out a few inches more. They are centered between the lids right now as opposed to spread to better cover the 4ft width I think...
 
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