To flush or not to flush?

Freedom Club

Freedom Club

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What do you think about it?

I just read an article stating that you could lose up to 15-20% on yield by flushing for the last week. Does not flushing even have serious effects on taste or is that just myth?

Please let me know
thank you
bongsmilie
 
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Bobby Long Buds

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This is what “MichiganMedGrower” told me in this thread.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/my-opinion-on-flushing-cannabis-yet-another.983580/

Lots of other smart peoples opinions there as well.

Do not pay attention to what I wrote in that thread I’m a noobie.

Read carefully the second word michigan med growers quote below.

“Feeding only what the plant really needs almost to the last watering. Tapering up as they peak and then back down as they ripen will give tastier and more potent smoke. And higher yield.

Cant speak to what is in your soil outside but i wouldnt grow in natural soil without testing and ammending if needed first.

I have tested known cuts flushed and fed every which way. I have even stopped buying bloom nutes and use a grow ratio all the way to the end”
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Freedom Club said:
What do you think about it?

I just read an article stating that you could lose up to 15-20% on yield by flushing for the last week. Does not flushing even have serious effects on taste or is that just myth?

Please let me know
thank you
bongsmilie
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I think your new and will believe anything and everything before doing everything and anything.

Try to consider its just a plant and should be treated the same as any and ignore the rubbish your gonna get sold.

Best advice for new bees coming onto a site choc full of bad info and trolls :-)
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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Freedom Club said:
What do you think about it?

I just read an article stating that you could lose up to 15-20% on yield by flushing for the last week. Does not flushing even have serious effects on taste or is that just myth?

Please let me know
thank you
bongsmilie
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I don't buy that you can lose 15-20% of yield from flushing in the last week. I mean its put its weight on and is ripening at that point.
But I don't believe in flushing either so its a non issue.
Anyone can write an article online and say anything..
 
NGA

NGA

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The answer to your question is experience try it both ways what ever you like better is your answer, your question is like askin a100 people who like McDonald’s,mine ya I wouldn’t feed it to my dog
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Freedom Club said:
What do you think about it?

I just read an article stating that you could lose up to 15-20% on yield by flushing for the last week. Does not flushing even have serious effects on taste or is that just myth?

Please let me know
thank you
bongsmilie
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You can not "flush" nutrients from plants = SCIENCE!
If you don't feed them for some weeks (fade) The plant is STILL moving the nutrient in the plant TO the buds !

As far as any home done side by side? Your brain finds a difference in things when "told" to. Even when the things being tested, are exactly the SAME = SCIENCE !!

It's called, Confirmation Bias

Once you get an idea in your head, you seek out only the evidence that supports your thought.

In the end, flushing is subject to so very many variables that there can be no general consensus made on it one way or the other. Through simple habit, I don't so much "flush" as I do just stop giving nutrients the week of harvest. I always harvest on a Saturday, so I stop all nutrients or additives of any kind on Sunday.

It's probably more of a "feel good" thing than anything else. I've had a few smokes from folks that swear flushing for weeks is the holy grail of all marijuana and I've smoked some from guys that say it's all bullshit.

I've never really seen any difference.

It's all subjective to our own thoughts, really. In the end, most any difference between the two has far more to do with what was done for the several months the grow took than it does what was done in the last 10 days or so.

That people have to argue to the point they'd come to blows were they in the same room over this topic is proof positive on just how far around the bend civilization has gone at this point.

Thanks to TacoMac for the above!


I got asked about this in a PM by a member after seeing the disaster another thread became. He asked where to find books and papers on "flushing" and said he might try the "fade".

Here's my answer to him......I felt it needs to be seen,,,,,,again!

Your looking for post grad work. You would do better to search papers......The thing is, NOTHING in agriculture gets 'flushed" and that leads to little to no research in the area. You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant! Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing". (No one listens to this in threads if they don't want to hear it or accept it.)

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT! Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plant is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds, but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can - "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. This self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line" and produce seeds...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those 'impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

There you go Mods, nice, polite and to the point. (Sorry about the other thread Sunni)

There you go, Now have at it!
I'm stepping back to watch the circus.

Read this too!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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NGA said:
The answer to your question is experience try it both ways what ever you like better is your answer, your question is like askin a100 people who like McDonald’s,mine ya I wouldn’t feed it to my dog
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No it's not!

The real answer IS found in plant science!

See the post above....
 
Renfro

Renfro

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Flushing simply deprives the plants of food when they are doing their most important work, finishing. You want to change your feed during flower to minimize nitrogen as this will make your buds harsh.
 
hawse

hawse

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But keep in mind, don't make the mistake of not flushing away salt buildup if you're using a lot of salt based nutes or something. Lockout is real - (or will I get flamed for this?) :)
 
diggs99

diggs99

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You shoulda paired this question with

Which is better led or hps

We coulda got the whole gang in here and really went crazy lol

My point being, your never getting a clear answer on this subject , it's a highly debated topic in the search feature. Every thread ending the same way, a bunch say yes and a bunch say no
 
hawse

hawse

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It's true - and to add to that confusion is that just the term flush can mean a lot of different things to different people - flushing to fix problems, flushing to rinse salts, flushing at the end before harvest, testing runoff - you'll get a million different answers...
 
Palmerrdgrower

Palmerrdgrower

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coreywebster said:
I don't buy that you can lose 15-20% of yield from flushing in the last week. I mean its put its weight on and is ripening at that point.
But I don't believe in flushing either so its a non issue.
Anyone can write an article online and say anything..
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I believe it most of my crop bulls up the last 2 weeks. now I never flush and I feed half strength nutrients right up to the last. I dry and cure to the best of my ability and so far my smoke is clean and smooth
 
Palmerrdgrower

Palmerrdgrower

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diggs99 said:
You shoulda paired this question with

Which is better led or hps

We coulda got the whole gang in here and really went crazy lol

My point being, your never getting a clear answer on this subject , it's a highly debated topic in the search feature. Every thread ending the same way, a bunch say yes and a bunch say no
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I should say that I water until run off every time also. And......hps rules
 
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