Thundercat
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I'm not sure if your serious or sarcastic here....
4 week old plants aggressively praying(question about far red initiator)
Either works for me ;D
I'm concerned about all the detritus in the tent and pots and he seems to have some stretch.
Thundercat
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Yeah the stretch is crazy. I honestly figured a lot of it was starting 12/12 2 weeks after the seed popped, and having his lights super high like all the cool LED kids do these days.
I'd blame the light height. I've never see that even when I flipped prior to sexual maturity. My anecdotal experience so ymmv
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rob333
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omg that aint praying thats asking for more light
Thundercat
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You know I"m all about lights sitting as close as possibleI'd blame the light height. I've never see that even when I flipped prior to sexual maturity. My anecdotal experience so ymmv
, hell I preach it enough around here. I've only ran a few plants 12/12 from seed so even my anacdotal experiance is limited on that one just one of the thoughts I had.
undergr0
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The stretch is from running the far red puck the entire on cycle, it went away as soon as I stopped. The chilled logic pucks already have some red, I did some reading and too much red can cause the plant to think its in the shade and stretch a lot, my first time with this light. The only one tacoing and praying really intensely was showing some nuts so I threw him in the vermicomposter. I'm thinking it was not enough light/heat as they have flattened out a bit.
Chip Green
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I have one pheno of my own, that will get a boner, like that when she gets a little chilly....I always notice it when I go in the veg tent, like just before the flower light kicks on , which quickly gets the room to daytime temps....
Warpedpassage
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On healthy plants, i have interpret “praying” leaves on a plant as them saluting the grower for a job well done. So i prefer to refer to this phenomenon as them “saluting” rather than “praying” .
undergr0
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Top leaf surface temps are still mid to upper 70s, the thermometer is reading 73 currently with a recent low of 68.
Why were you running 730nm light now? It's also a flower trigger but that won't work until sexual maturity.
undergr0
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I’m running it now just to put the plants to sleep, it supposedly shortens flowering time.
Here are the plants currently, the light is pulling all 320 from the wall.
But your plants are not flowering they are in veg and as such you don't need that spectrum. They will go to sleep all by themselves.
undergr0
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They have been in 12/12 for almost 2 weeks now. I bought this tent specifically to run through a bunch of seeds and find good cuts to run in my living soil tent. Anything I like I will either monster crop or reveg. Two have already shown sex, one male that I killed and a female.
Until your plants alternate branching they are not sexually mature enough to flower and they have to flower before you can reveg them. I looked at your picture closely and see no signs of any pre-flowers. You can certainly grow them under 12/12 from seed but they won't flower until they are mature enough.
undergr0
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Until your plants alternate branching they are not sexually mature enough to flower and they have to flower before you can reveg them. I looked at your picture closely and see no signs of any pre-flowers. You can certainly grow them under 12/12 from seed but they won't flower until they are mature enough.
You may wish to purchase and read this article: https://www.nature.com/articles/nature01636
Here is an excerpt from the abstract:
"...and induces flowering in response to suboptimal light conditions."
My point being even if you can get them flower in their immature state I'm not sure the end product will fairly represent your genetics. Interesting what you're doing. I'm certain you'll learn something. I learn something on every grow.
I too would love to find a way to pheno hunt faster. Best of luck.
undergr0
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Right, I noticed they were stretching like crazy and cut out the far red except for 15 minutes at lights out since I switched to 12/12 about 2 weeks ago. Only 2 have shown any signs of gender, they are probably just early bloomers as they are close to a month old now and have been under 12/12 half their life.
I was initially running the far red puck the entire on cycle to try and induce the Emerson effect but I dont know much about it. I might try again once everything is past the stretch in flower to see what happenes.