Green New Deal: "Air Travel Stops Becoming Necessary"

cheemo

cheemo

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yep, that's just what the Arctic needs. cruise ships that burn the dirtiest barely refined fuel available, emit the same amount of pollutants as one million cars, and dump their raw sewage into the oceans. enjoy the views!
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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cheemo said:
yep, that's just what the Arctic needs. cruise ships that burn the dirtiest barely refined fuel available, emit the same amount of pollutants as one million cars, and dump their raw sewage into the oceans. enjoy the views!
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Why is it that dumb people like you tend to just go off and say whatever is on their mind as if it were true?

If you read the resolution that Cortez submitted to Congress, the plan isn't just about air travel. It's about systematic change that gives people better alternatives to air travel but not just that. Because making it to carbon neutral will require much more than just that.

Dumb people can't understand smart people. So just give up trying.
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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Fogdog said:
Why is it that dumb people like you tend to just go off and say whatever is on their mind as if it were true?

If you read the resolution that Cortez submitted to Congress, the plan isn't just about air travel. It's about systematic change that gives people better alternatives to air travel but not just that. Because making it to carbon neutral will require much more than just that.

Dumb people can't understand smart people. So just give up trying.
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Condescension really fits you. Please tell us more about yourself.
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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cheemo said:
yep, that's just what the Arctic needs. cruise ships that burn the dirtiest barely refined fuel available, emit the same amount of pollutants as one million cars, and dump their raw sewage into the oceans. enjoy the views!
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Hey! Disney has the right to build a theme park anywhere it dreams.:finger:
So lets keep trains out of the topic.
Truth of the matter it looks like there will be oil platforms flaring off as well as the cruse ships despite logic.
Profits.
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TacoMac

TacoMac

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cheemo said:
yep, that's just what the Arctic needs. cruise ships that burn the dirtiest barely refined fuel available, emit the same amount of pollutants as one million cars, and dump their raw sewage into the oceans. enjoy the views!
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It's not going to matter.

By 2060, you'll be able to cruise through the Northwest Passage 4 months out of the year and not see a single block of ice.
 
zeddd

zeddd

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cheemo said:
yep, that's just what the Arctic needs. cruise ships that burn the dirtiest barely refined fuel available, emit the same amount of pollutants as one million cars, and dump their raw sewage into the oceans. enjoy the views!
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There’s no potato between one and two
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Fixed up said:
So these corporations that only want to buy back shares are not going to be the ones building this infrastructure? The government is going to take care of all of that too? OMG
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LOL You've been eating at the pork trough too long.

Is there anything wrong with corporations taking contracts from the government to do real work that leaves lasting value? Schools, roads, bridges, the power grid all were payed for by bonds backed by governments and eventually paid for by taxpayers. The GOP's big idea is share buy backs funded by government debt. Those share values are not permanent nor do they provide something of value to the people who will eventually pay for them.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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Fogdog said:
Or San Francisco to San Diego with a stop in LA.

A productive jobs and infrastructure spending program makes tons more sense than giving corporations tax cuts so they can buy back shares.
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my uncle was looking into going out near chicago from the philly area to visit his son for xmas.. i was looking online for prices for a train for him.. i almost crapped myself when i found out there's zero trains that run from philly to chicago, and he'd have to take a bus from philly to some where like harrisburg pa, then get on a train to some where near chicago, and on to another bus.. it was like a 26 hour one way trip.. i've been all over europe and went from milan to venice by train, which was a good few hours, and cost us about $40 per tix, and went by train from amsterdam to germany, as well as taking the train in spain.. the train system in the us blows by comparison.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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racerboy71 said:
my uncle was looking into going out near chicago from the philly area to visit his son for xmas.. i was looking online for prices for a train for him.. i almost crapped myself when i found out there's zero trains that run from philly to chicago, and he'd have to take a bus from philly to some where like harrisburg pa, then get on a train to some where near chicago, and on to another bus.. it was like a 26 hour one way trip.. i've been all over europe and went from milan to venice by train, which was a good few hours, and cost us about $40 per tix, and went by train from amsterdam to germany, as well as taking the train in spain.. the train system in the us blows by comparison.
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Exactly. Japan, Germany and even China have governments that invest in their people and infrastructure.

We borrow trillions to pay for a tax cut that corporations used to buy back shares and artificially run up share values that can be wiped out at a moment.
 
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