Va Governor Blackface or KKK robe? Your choice!

UncleBuck

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MidwestGorilla219

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Off to drink, smoke, and play GTA5 online, feel like I'm wasting my time here. Some people here are not true liberals, they are just here to troll its obvious.
 
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UncleBuck

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MidwestGorilla219 said:
I guess when five women retract their accusations, that's when you stop believing them, lol. Are you calling them liars?
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that didn't even happen though. did you hear that one from freedomeaglepatriot.ru on facebook or something?

and dr. christine blasey ford did come forward months ahead of the hearings, as soon as she heard her rapist was being considered for scotus

so on the one hand, we have half a dozen women all testifying that they were raped or sexually assaulted, mountains of evidence from kavanaugh's own yearbooks as well as his classmates that him and his friends had zero regard for women, dozens of witnesses to testify that kavanaugh was a blackout drunk and that he and his friends had zero regard for women, dozens of classmates saying georgetown prep was a date rape factory, and mr. kavanaugh himself was caught in lie after lie after lie after lie after lie making him not credible

on the other hand, we have your feelings.

jesus christ you're a fucking stooge
 
Fogdog

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MidwestGorilla219 said:
Right, they were just silent for the first 30 yrs, dude was probably a virgin well after college imo. Name calling? Why not just block anybody who disagrees with you, I'm sorry your so full of hate.
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Actually, that kind of shit has been all too common for all too long. Any woman who was trying to make her way into a good career has been sexually harassed at the minimum and sexual assaults were far too common. Not just them but we are talking about them here and now. For decades, the sexually assaulted career woman was left with the choice of coming forward and being reviled, slut shamed, and interrogated as if she were the perp or stay quiet and continue to work. Surely you don't deny that this is the story for working women ever since they went into the work force?

The backlash in the form of the me too movement and this current issue of what to do with VA's Governor is what the Trump Presidency has wrought. He and his supporters have divided this country so sharply that we now can very clearly see the perps for what they are. Either you are with them or you are with the people who are saying enough is enough. Hell yes, Ms Ford gave a believable story including why she did not report it. If she had, it would have only hurt her. In fact, that's what happened at the hearing.

You say you aren't one of the right wing Trump radicals. If you aren't then perhaps you should reconsider what you just said. This is not about hate, it's about ending the uncivil treatment of people of all genders, skin color and economic class. The hate has been coming from people like Trump, not those they abused. Did Ford look like a hater at the hearing? Recall the vitriol and anger Kavanaugh showed at that hearing and tell me again who the haters are.
 
Fogdog

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Bugeye said:
The only states that allocated electoral college votes by congressional district in the 2016 election were Nebraska and Maine. You could toss both out and Trump still would have beat Hillary. So the idea that Trump won due to gerrymandering is kinda silly.
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Nice try but false. The Republican Party loves them some Gerrymandering because it keeps them in power even if they lose by as much as 5% of the popular vote. In some states by as much as 15% of the popular vote. They use their majority in state offices to pass voter suppression laws. So, double edged effect. Yes, Gerrymandering affects Presidential elections.
 
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Fogdog said:
Actually, that kind of shit has been all too common for all too long. Any woman who was trying to make her way into a good career has been sexually harassed at the minimum and sexual assaults were far too common. Not just them but we are talking about them here and now. For decades, the sexually assaulted career woman was left with the choice of coming forward and being reviled, slut shamed, and interrogated as if she were the perp or stay quiet and continue to work. Surely you don't deny that this is the story for working women ever since they went into the work force?

The backlash in the form of the me too movement and this current issue of what to do with VA's Governor is what the Trump Presidency has wrought. He and his supporters have divided this country so sharply that we now can very clearly see the perps for what they are. Either you are with them or you are with the people who are saying enough is enough. Hell yes, Ms Ford gave a believable story including why she did not report it. If she had, it would have only hurt her. In fact, that's what happened at the hearing.

You say you aren't one of the right wing Trump radicals. If you aren't then perhaps you should reconsider what you just said. This is not about hate, it's about ending the uncivil treatment of people of all genders, skin color and economic class. The hate has been coming from people like Trump, not those they abused. Did Ford look like a hater at the hearing? Recall the vitriol and anger Kavanaugh showed at that hearing and tell me again who the haters are.
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I will admit my opinion is really based on me looking at him and thinking, he looks like a nerdy virgin boy who never had sex until his late 30's. The other thing is how late everything came about, several accusers redacting their stories, but ms Ford did not come off as a liar and I could be wrong. If I got accused I would be mad, I don't know how I would react but I can see myself getting pissed.

I'm not a Trump fan, He has a shit ton of people brainwashed where I live in the midwest and I understand I hear it everyday. I hate the hard left and Right. They are taking the moderate out of everything. The Republican party is now the right wing Trump party. I'm worried were going to go hard left and Right every election and never get shit done or undo everything the previous administration did before anything ever gets a chance. I hate bible thumping idiots too. Do you remember the last time we elected truely moderate Judges to our courts Democrat or Republican were in real trouble, the moderates are the only ones who are not radical! I'm with you on fuck Kavanaugh, I may not think he is guilty but he is a real threat to row vs wade, even though I don't like the idea of killing a baby just before birth but roe vs wade should be set in stone. There you go that's as honest as I can get.
 
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Fogdog

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MidwestGorilla219 said:
I will admit my opinion is really based on me looking at him and thinking, he looks like a nerdy virgin boy who never had sex until his late 30's. The other thing is how late everything came about, several accusers redacting their stories, but ms Ford did not come off as a liar and I could be wrong. If I got accused I would be mad, I don't know how I would react but I can see myself getting pissed.

I'm not a Trump fan, I hate the hard left and Right. They are taking the moderate out of everything. The Republican party is now the right wing Trump party. I'm worried were going to go hard left and Right every election and never get shit done or undo everything the previous administration did before anything ever gets a chance. I hate bible thumping idiots too. Do you remember the last time we elected truely moderate Judges to our courts, the moderates are the only ones who are not radical! I'm with you on fuck Kavanaugh, I may not think he is guilty but he is a real threat to row vs wade, even though I don't like the idea of killing a baby just before birth but roe vs wade should be set in stone. There you go that's as honest as I can get.
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Every woman I've been close to had a story about sexual assault and real disgusting sexual harassment at work. Ms Ford's story wasn't exceptional other than it was about a teen male who grew up to sit on the Supreme Court. Unless you dispute her story, what she said was that young Kavanaugh did not act remorseful, in fact he laughed about it. So, sure he was angry when accused. His anger was his defense in that situation. I'm not saying his anger was disingenuous but it was certainly not evidence that he was being wrongly accused. When we look past the anger, he really had nothing to say in his defense. That calendar he talked about was a joke if he thought it was evidence.
 
doniboy

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Funny how when it's a Conservative accused of being a racist or a of sexual misconduct, all liberals can think and talk about is the accused and how bad racism and sexual assault is. When it's a democrats that are accused, all they want to talk about is Trump.

Liberal: John Doe (R) is accused of rape.
Conservative: But there's no proof.
Liberal: The fact that it's a woman's word against a man's, and the fact that he's a Conservative is all the proof we need. GUILTY!

Conservative: John Doe (D) is accused of rape.
Liberal: Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump!

Conservative: But there's proof, pictures, and video!
Liberal: Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump!

Conservative: But I thought we were supposed to believe the woman?
Liberal: Trump, Trump, Trump, Kavanaugh, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump!
 
doniboy

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Fogdog said:
Every woman I've been close to had a story about sexual assault and real disgusting sexual harassment at work. Ms Ford's story wasn't exceptional other than it was about a teen male who grew up to sit on the Supreme Court. Unless you dispute her story, what she said was that young Kavanaugh did not act remorseful, in fact he laughed about it. So, sure he was angry when accused. His anger was his defense in that situation. I'm not saying his anger was disingenuous but it was certainly not evidence that he was being wrongly accused. When we look past the anger, he really had nothing to say in his defense. That calendar he talked about was a joke if he thought it was evidence.
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There was no proof or corroboration to her story. She does not remember how she got there how she got home, or any details what so ever. The people, multiple people, she claims were there at the party and/or in the room at the time of the alleged assault all testified under oath that they didn't know Kav, never met Kav, and/or wasn't at a party with him present. Her very own childhood best friend for decades refutes Dr. Ford's testimony. There also hasn't been any credible witnesses from that era till this day that have come forth with ANY evidence that Kav has sexually assaulted or harassed anyone from the time he was a teen until now. All of the women that knew him then until this day hold him in great esteem. There is absolutely no proof, and these claims wouldn't even make it to trail even if the alleged incident happened yesterday. No prosecutor would bring charges base on the lack of evidence and the lack conflicting accounts coming from Dr Ford's own friends and associates...

The only reason you choose to believe it and take everything as fact in the absence of proof or corroborating evidence is because you're partisan and bias.... If Kavanaugh was a Liberal, the facts of the case were the same, and his accuser was a life long Conservative with strong ties to the Republican party, I'd bet you'd believe Kav then... Matter of fact, I know you would even if you claim you would not...

To me it's not a Republican vs Democrat partisan issue. It's a witch hunt on all men, especially white men, issue. All it takes is the word of a woman, without any proof and with no statute of limitations, to ruin a man's life and the life of his loved ones... Supporting such a phenomenon for partisan reason is disgusting and shameful IMHO ...
 
zeddd

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doniboy said:
There was no proof or corroboration to her story. She does not remember how she got there how she got home, or any details what so ever. The people, multiple people, she claims were there at the party and/or in the room at the time of the alleged assault all testified under oath that they didn't know Kav, never met Kav, and/or wasn't at a party with him present. Her very own childhood best friend for decades refutes Dr. Ford's testimony. There also hasn't been any credible witnesses from that era till this day that have come forth with ANY evidence that Kav has sexually assaulted or harassed anyone from the time he was a teen until now. All of the women that knew him then until this day hold him in great esteem. There is absolutely no proof, and these claims wouldn't even make it to trail even if the alleged incident happened yesterday. No prosecutor would bring charges base on the lack of evidence and the lack conflicting accounts coming from Dr Ford's own friends and associates...

The only reason you choose to believe it and take everything as fact in the absence of proof or corroborating evidence is because you're partisan and bias.... If Kavanaugh was a Liberal, the facts of the case were the same, and his accuser was a life long Conservative with strong ties to the Republican party, I'd bet you'd believe Kav then... Matter of fact, I know you would even if you claim you would not...

To me it's not a Republican vs Democrat partisan issue. It's a witch hunt on all men, especially white men, issue. All it takes is the word of a woman, without any proof and with no statute of limitations, to ruin a man's life and the life of his loved ones... Supporting such a phenomenon for partisan reason is disgusting and shameful IMHO ...
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A witch hunt on white male rapists.
 
doniboy

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zeddd said:
A witch hunt on white male rapists.
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Is that the best you can come up with as a retort? Try harder... As a man, how do you feel about the fact that any woman can claim you sexually harassed and/or assaulted her, and you're instantly considered guilty in the eyes of your peers. You instantly loose your livelihood. All over the word of one person without any real proof... That's the topic of the post you immaturely responded to with a trolling one liner...
 
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Unclebaldrick

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doniboy said:
Is that the best you can come up with as a retort? Try harder... As a man, how do you feel about the fact that any woman can claim you sexually harassed and/or assaulted her, and you're instantly considered guilty in the eyes of your peers. You instantly loose your livelihood. All over the word of one person without any real proof... That's the topic of the post you immaturely responded to with a trolling one liner...
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Wow, it sure is a tough time for young men. :roll:
 
blu3bird

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doniboy said:
Is that the best you can come up with as a retort? Try harder... As a man, how do you feel about the fact that any woman can claim you sexually harassed and/or assaulted her, and you're instantly considered guilty in the eyes of your peers. You instantly loose your livelihood. All over the word of one person without any real proof... That's the topic of the post you immaturely responded to with a trolling one liner...
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As a man, I personally don't have to worry about a woman accusing me of anything shady. I always respect women and have never crossed any lines that would make any female say something negative about me.

I give credit for this to my dad (RIP) for raising me to treat women respectfully.


So it's pretty simple, don't treat women like crap and you won't have to worry about being accused of anything
 
zeddd

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doniboy said:
Is that the best you can come up with as a retort? Try harder... As a man, how do you feel about the fact that any woman can claim you sexually harassed and/or assaulted her, and you're instantly considered guilty in the eyes of your peers. You instantly loose your livelihood. All over the word of one person without any real proof... That's the topic of the post you immaturely responded to with a trolling one liner...
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I think it’s really cool
 
TacoMac

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MidwestGorilla219 said:
Click profile, hit ignore, bada boom, one less troll I have to deal with.
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Get asked to provide any proof of your statements and your answer is to ignore the person that asked the question.

Typical Republican.

tangerinegreen555 said:
Which part of the story was a political stunt?
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Well, he does have a point only he's not able to back up his accusations with any evidence. The entire way it was handled by the Democratic leadership was purely a political stunt.

Dr. Ford sent her letter to them in the first part of July. In that letter, she detailed essentially the same exact story she told to the committee, but she asked to remain anonymous.

The Democratic leadership was foaming at the mouth over that letter, and they set a plan in motion MONTHS in advance.

Brett Kavanaugh's hearing was scheduled to begin September the 4th. Democrats did absolutely nothing with that letter at all until then, and what they did in essence was throw Dr. Ford under the fucking bus.

Democratic leadership had that letter two months in advance, and could easily have redacted the name and shared it with the republican leadership and the president the very day they got it.

But that's not what they wanted to do. Democratic leadership wasn't the least bit interested in having a fair, open, above board nomination process. They wanted a shit show to embarrass the president, and with Dr. Ford's letter, they had one.

So they waited until the hearing and then intentionally leaked not only the letter, but Dr. Ford's name to the media.

What happened next everybody pretty much knows.

Now, does any of that discredit Dr. Ford? Absolutely not. Dr. Ford is an honest, credible woman that suffered an attack as a teenager that she obviously still struggles with to this very day. Her coming forward took more balls than any man on this forum possesses.

It also emboldened other women who suffered at the hands of that asshole to come forward as well.

Now, whether you want to get nit picky about "it wasn't rape it was assault" is irrelevant. The man's character, or more accurately the complete lack of it, should have instantly disqualified him from making it to the highest court in the land for the rest of his life.

Barring the testimony given against him as a factor, his own outrageous behavior before the committee should have disqualified him as well. He was a completely unhinged, spoiled brat, admitted drunken asshole that was insulting to, BIG SURPRISE HERE, the women of the committee.

If there were ever any doubt of who he is and what he is, his own testimony completely removed it.

He's a drunken, womanizing, thug that should never have been nominated, let alone confirmed. The GOP lost what little bit of credibility they had left by supporting that complete failure of a shitbag. He doesn't qualify as a man, so his name and man can't be used in the same sentence.

So yes, Midwest is right in that it was a political stunt, but it doesn't (or at least shouldn't) detract from the fact that Brett Kavanaugh is a drunken, womanizing, sexual deviant, bully asshole.
 
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