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Fogdog

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That actually didn't help. Trump lost the popular election that Russia tried to influence. It was largely gerrymandering that gave Trump the win.
It all contributed. The main reason Trump won is because a startlingly large number of voters liked his racist and misogynistic rhetoric. Without that the points shaved here or there would not have mattered.
 

Bugeye

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It keeps lawmakers in office who support voter suppression laws.
A for effort, but no, gerrymandering keeps lawmakers from both parties in office. Unless you are saying that both parties are suppressing votes?
 

Fogdog

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A for effort, but no, gerrymandering keeps lawmakers from both parties in office. Unless you are saying that both parties are suppressing votes?
It doesn't matter if the lawmakers are from the Democratic Party. The Republican Party is one that celebrates its voter suppression laws. So, yeah, Gerrymandering by those Republican lawmakers enhance their ability to steal elections.
 

Fogdog

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I'm sure you want to believe that being that he is not a liberal but I'm convinced it was an attempt by the Democrats to smear and keep him out of the supreme court.
Republicans no longer live according to a moral compass. Their support for Kavanaugh followed by their pouncing on Virginia's Democrats only prove this. It's all about maintaining power.
 

Bugeye

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It doesn't matter if the lawmakers are from the Democratic Party. The Republican Party is one that celebrates its voter suppression laws. So, yeah, Gerrymandering by those Republican lawmakers enhance their ability to steal elections.
Less than impressive logic.
 

MidwestGorilla219

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Republicans no longer live according to a moral compass. Their support for Kavanaugh followed by their pouncing on Virginia's Democrats only prove this. It's all about maintaining power.
I don't doubt that, all politicians are sociopaths left and right. I still doubt he is a rapist though, even Democrats where I live believe it was an attempted smear. Those who believe all right wing politicians are evil and all left wing politicians to be angels are clearly biased, it's all moderates where I live personally I believe hard left and hard right are both crazy.
 

Fogdog

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I don't doubt that, all politicians are sociopaths left and right. I still doubt he is a rapist though, even Democrats where I live believe it was an attempted smear. Those who believe all right wing politicians are evil and all left wing politicians to be angels are clearly biased, it's all moderates where I live personally I believe hard left and hard right are both crazy.
Naive
 

Bugeye

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By all means, please explain.
The only states that allocated electoral college votes by congressional district in the 2016 election were Nebraska and Maine. You could toss both out and Trump still would have beat Hillary. So the idea that Trump won due to gerrymandering is kinda silly.
 

doublejj

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The only states that allocated electoral college votes by congressional district in the 2016 election were Nebraska and Maine. You could toss both out and Trump still would have beat Hillary. So the idea that Trump won due to gerrymandering is kinda silly.
lets toss California and NY out and see what would have happened.....thump would be a grease spot under Hillary's bus...
 

Bugeye

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lets toss California and NY out and see what would have happened.....thump would be a grease spot under Hillary's bus...
Huh? Pretty sure that tossing those electoral votes out would have helped Trump win by a much larger margin, I think Trump even wins the popular vote if you toss those.
 

doublejj

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Huh? Pretty sure that tossing those electoral votes out would have helped Trump win by a much larger margin, I think Trump even wins the popular vote if you toss those.
Just count the popular votes in Cali & NY and throw out all the other states votes
 
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