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mojoganjaman

mojoganjaman

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CalyxCrusher said:
Try placing whatever vessel your oil is in into a bowl of hot water. Not boiled by kettle, but ripping hot out of the tap. You'll have to change the water out more frequently but it shouldn't be so hot itll melt the caps. You can always pull it out of the hot water bath if you think it's getting too hot or too runny.
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I was thinkin' maybe freeze the caps....then load...thoughts???



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Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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i have a seedling heat mat, and a large silicone no stick baking mat. i put the silicone mat on top of the heat mat, and use craft sticks to hold the edges up. the large surface area makes for quick evaporation, and the seedling mat helps it along without ever getting more than warm, really. it'll dry out a quart run of 91 % iso overnight. if you put a fan blowing across the top of it, it'll do it in about 4 hours....that's about as quick as you can get without vacuum columns.....and i just don't have the room for that kind of shit in my tiny little house....
 
mojoganjaman

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i have a seedling heat mat, and a large silicone no stick baking mat. i put the silicone mat on top of the heat mat, and use craft sticks to hold the edges up. the large surface area makes for quick evaporation, and the seedling mat helps it along without ever getting more than warm, really. it'll dry out a quart run of 91 % iso overnight. if you put a fan blowing across the top of it, it'll do it in about 4 hours....that's about as quick as you can get without vacuum columns.....and i just don't have the room for that kind of shit in my tiny little house....
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thanks Roger...I do 5 gal runs, and dump into glass bowls, then double boil...I'm always fearful of heating it too much...but I like the fan idea...use my double boiler and fan that oil....good idea budz!!!


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Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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i am going to try something that was mentioned in another thread about winterizing. the only way to make qwiso or qwet without getting waxes and fats that you can remove with winterizing, is to use supercold alcohol to begin with, which doesn't pull out nearly as much of that type of material, so you don't have to take an extra step to remove it later. so i'm going to put my stuff in the freezer overnight, just like always, but i'm going to go get about 4 pounds of dry ice right before i make it, smash it into dust, then pour half of it into my alcohol right before i do my first wash with it, then add the second half when i do a second wash. i'm hoping for a much cleaner, clearer looking finished product than i have been getting. the quality has been good, but i'd like it to be "prettier", and i'm hoping to capture some some of the more volatile terps that get lost so easy when you use any kind of heat
 
mojoganjaman

mojoganjaman

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i am going to try something that was mentioned in another thread about winterizing. the only way to make qwiso or qwet without getting waxes and fats that you can remove with winterizing, is to use supercold alcohol to begin with, which doesn't pull out nearly as much of that type of material, so you don't have to take an extra step to remove it later. so i'm going to put my stuff in the freezer overnight, just like always, but i'm going to go get about 4 pounds of dry ice right before i make it, smash it into dust, then pour half of it into my alcohol right before i do my first wash with it, then add the second half when i do a second wash. i'm hoping for a much cleaner, clearer looking finished product than i have been getting. the quality has been good, but i'd like it to be "prettier", and i'm hoping to capture some some of the more volatile terps that get lost so easy when you use any kind of heat
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agreed....I've been freezing both iso and product for about 10 yrs...much cleaner than 30 yrs ago....lol


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gb123

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sadly purging and filtering ISO is the painful part
but

Lots of stainless bowels and strainers helps make it quicker when doing a pound of meds at a time.
I use the rice cooker for the first part. Takes about 3 to 4 hours for a gallon of ISO to purge then right into the VAC chamber for 2 hours on its own with the vac going continuously with the chamber (or an oil bath on the stove)on a heating pad at 100 F degrees.
Yer golden when yer done ;)

if you are not smoking the stuff..a higher heat n he stove to purge the last ISO isn't an issue at all.
do not go above 230 degrees.
When the bubbles stop..yer done.
 
mojoganjaman

mojoganjaman

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gb123 said:
sadly purging and filtering ISO is the painful part
but

Lots of stainless bowels and strainers helps make it quicker when doing a pound of meds at a time.
I use the rice cooker for the first part. Takes about 3 to 4 hours for a gallon of ISO to purge then right into the VAC chamber for 2 hours on its own with the vac going continuously with the chamber (or an oil bath on the stove)on a heating pad at 100 F degrees.
Yer golden when yer done ;)

if you are not smoking the stuff..a higher heat n he stove to purge the last ISO isn't an issue at all.
do not go above 230 degrees.
When the bubbles stop..yer done.
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thanks gb...no vac oven...will just use more heat and a fan...seems to be working....;))


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curious2garden

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mojoganjaman said:
sorry...I may have not made my post clear...I run iso for my solvent to get the oil...just looking for a quick method to purge the iso...hope this clears up things....;))


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Oil is an effective solvent and can save you the ISO hassle if you'd like to try it.

Edited to add the process I use:
To make a potent edible, mix 1:10 weight ratio (e.g. 15 grams flower to 150 grams oil), of flower to coconut oil in a mason jar sealed tightly. Place in a crock pot, add boiling water to cover and turn crock pot on high for 4-5 hours. Decarb and extract in one motion, simply filter the finished product to remove the vegetable matter and you're done. You can obviously dilute with more coconut oil if necessary. Wax is easily ignored by our digestive tracts.
 
OldMedUser

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I make cocobudder in a crock pot without any water but even the 10:1 ratio takes a full teaspoon to catch a decent buzz so you'd have to take 5 -8 '00' caps to get a teaspoon worth and that would likely be too small a dose for fighting cancer with. Instructions in the link in my sig.

Could skip the capping of it tho and eat it directly like I do. Doesn't taste great but not that bad and I'll melt a tsp onto a cookie or something and eat that. A capfull of ISO/RSO is a much larger dose of oil than a tsp of my cocobudder tho.

Make sure not to use veggie caps with oil or they will melt. Gelatin caps are fine with oil tho.
 
mojoganjaman

mojoganjaman

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OldMedUser said:
I make cocobudder in a crock pot without any water but even the 10:1 ratio takes a full teaspoon to catch a decent buzz so you'd have to take 5 -8 '00' caps to get a teaspoon worth and that would likely be too small a dose for fighting cancer with. Instructions in the link in my sig.

Could skip the capping of it tho and eat it directly like I do. Doesn't taste great but not that bad and I'll melt a tsp onto a cookie or something and eat that. A capfull of ISO/RSO is a much larger dose of oil than a tsp of my cocobudder tho.

Make sure not to use veggie caps with oil or they will melt. Gelatin caps are fine with oil tho.
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I use a magical butter machine...makes 1000+ caps in bulk in a couple hours...just need to find out how to add iso oil to caps...to thick it won't flow....too hot the gell caps melt...so maybe a hybrid oil/coconut oil will allow syringe use without as much heat...I'm still a learner...;))))


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