It’s 100% legal

[Sgt_Dubie]

well, I’m not an everyday toker, but I’ve been partaking here and there on my free time for a little over twenty years... that changed a little bit lately. Since October 17th, my country has legalized weed and I can now go to the store, pick a strain and go to town... I’ve been a bit on a bender like I haven’t seen since my high school days... Going to the weed shop is like being a kid in a candy store. And when I decide what I want just whip out the old Visa card and away you go.

No more hanging out in a bed bug riddled shack in a bad neighbourhood, pretending to like some dickhead you actually hate just to score a bag of questionable dope... Never thought I’d see it, but I guess it’s here. Plus, now I can actually experiment with different strains to see if something will actually help my conditions before filing all the veteran affairs paperwork. It’s awesome.

Anyway, just dropping in to say hi before I check out the rest of the forum.

 

[Ford20]

Welcome to RIU and congrats Canada

 

[OldMedUser]

Must be a bit newish to pot history to be happy about Prohibition 2.0.

I've been using pot for 50 years, growing for 40 and the whole thing is corrupt and just a greedy money grab for Harper's old cronies. I've never been a cash cropper and just grow for myself and to share with a few close friends so it's not a case of sour grapes.

Welcome to RIU tho and may your visits enlighten you!

 

[BarnBuster]

Welcome to RIU!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/veterans-get-the-fuck-in-here-now.868187/page-65

 

[outliergenetix]

well, I’m not an everyday toker, but I’ve been partaking here and there on my free time for a little over twenty years... that changed a little bit lately. Since October 17th, my country has legalized weed and I can now go to the store, pick a strain and go to town... I’ve been a bit on a bender like I haven’t seen since my high school days... Going to the weed shop is like being a kid in a candy store. And when I decide what I want just whip out the old Visa card and away you go.

No more hanging out in a bed bug riddled shack in a bad neighbourhood, pretending to like some dickhead you actually hate just to score a bag of questionable dope... Never thought I’d see it, but I guess it’s here. Plus, now I can actually experiment with different strains to see if something will actually help my conditions before filing all the veteran affairs paperwork. It’s awesome.

Anyway, just dropping in to say hi before I check out the rest of the forum.

you don't find it ironic that it wasn't till uncle sam became your dealer that you started to binge? sorry but this saddens me greatly i won't bother with why as i fear it will offend. i will say this tho. fuck rec dispenseries and fuck regulation. it is destroying genetic diversity all so the capitalist pigs can be your dealers. in 20 years this plant will be so homogenous it's not even funny unless we put a stop to this commercial bullshit. without unlimited plant counts for personal use to offset the selections big corp and legal grows select for cannabis is doomed. have you not noticed 90%strains already taste like gsc? please man grow you own, from non fem seeds, with strains not envogue unless they really work for you medically or something

 

[Bodyne]

When I lived in Oregon, many could not grow or grow their own and would have caregivers grow for them and if not, they had to use the dispensaries. Some dispensaries, or clubs before legalized, would give away small amts free to patients, etc or refer you to someone who could help you out. So there is a need for the dispensaries and if you want genetic diversity, I'd say follow Breeder steve on IG and see why he's growing fields of bioweed in Columbia.

 

[outliergenetix]

When I lived in Oregon, many could not grow or grow their own and would have caregivers grow for them and if not, they had to use the dispensaries. Some dispensaries, or clubs before legalized, would give away small amts free to patients, etc or refer you to someone who could help you out. So there is a need for the dispensaries and if you want genetic diversity, I'd say follow Breeder steve on IG and see why he's growing fields of bioweed in Columbia.

i don't consider those dispenseries per se. to me that is a collective and a collective can exist without a rec regulated system. the more we bend the more they will take it is not a linear step toward legalization or progress to say any growing is better tthan none. the community as most charrities are more efficient than companies and governments. i support legalization like that of a tomato. and while there are compromise, as ig there always are, mine are way short of what we have anywhere in this country and key places like cali went backwards

 

[Bodyne]

again, in Oregon that was before legalization. Patients helping patients. Now you just gotta pay the price or grow your own. Or get a caregiver. Or go to the club. Got some options, have to pick one. I want to see the hemp industry come back, my state was one of the biggest producers way back when. Jobs, etc and a whole new market for consumers. Outdoor weed growers will just have to adjust. But being able to grow your own or it not be oil only is a great thing, imho.

 

[Old Thcool]

Hey this is my first post here, but I have something to say... I as a Canadian I don’t like where cannabis is going. First of all, our government really only semi legalized it. They created a mechanism whereby almost all of our domestic greenhouse producers of food are jumping ship to grow dope! I see a huge problem here!! Food prices are already high! Some families out here are hurting. The government will allow rich people to sell weed but not regular citizens?
The police said to me that the only things that have changed on their end is - they have no mechanism to check for pot impairment beyond smell and behaviour? Well what if you just got off work trimming for a rich company? Are you guilty? Cuz you stink? The cops in our area gave up,after the medical grows started, to check on complaints of stinky houses because they didn’t want the paperwork anyway! Why only 4 plants? Why not 2 or 10? The message is unless you are a wealthy outfit you can’t legally sell cannabis like tomatoes? But you can grow what we allow! We just want an excuse to allow the cops to turn a blind eye and stop plugging the court system with 1 ounce busts! It pisses me off! But hey thanks for having me! That’s my rant for the day.

 

[outliergenetix]

Hey this is my first post here, but I have something to say... I as a Canadian I don’t like where cannabis is going. First of all, our government really only semi legalized it. They created a mechanism whereby almost all of our domestic greenhouse producers of food are jumping ship to grow dope! I see a huge problem here!! Food prices are already high! Some families out here are hurting. The government will allow rich people to sell weed but not regular citizens?
The police said to me that the only things that have changed on their end is - they have no mechanism to check for pot impairment beyond smell and behaviour? Well what if you just got off work trimming for a rich company? Are you guilty? Cuz you stink? The cops in our area gave up,after the medical grows started, to check on complaints of stinky houses because they didn’t want the paperwork anyway! Why only 4 plants? Why not 2 or 10? The message is unless you are a wealthy outfit you can’t legally sell cannabis like tomatoes? But you can grow what we allow! We just want an excuse to allow the cops to turn a blind eye and stop plugging the court system with 1 ounce busts! It pisses me off! But hey thanks for having me! That’s my rant for the day.

this is nothing new man. all legalization movements are run by PACs and all PACs are corrupt. where i lived was even worse. it was like 2 million in escrow for a grow lcense no personal grows. add to that you could auction your license before ever using it lol. the commitee decides each year who to give licesnes to and its' only a handfull. they base the license off a review conducted by a 10 person panel and it is literally at their sole discretion and it is not a blind application either. i could go on, but this is why i don't support "legalization" nor doi consider a win/progress what many do.
i feel for ya brotha because shit like your talking about is hard to undo. it pacifies too many ppl and breeds complacency. if i even talk like this on some live streams, on twitch for example, i get banned for being like anti recreational etc.. the avg person doesn''t get what is happening, even in lenient places it is destroying the plant thru giving all the genetic selection power to very few, and for a narrow scope/purpose, add to that very little outdoor pollination and no large perosnal grows offsetting this is a disaster waiting to happen imo. diversity will be gone in a decade

 

[Old Thcool]

this is nothing new man. all legalization movements are run by PACs and all PACs are corrupt. where i lived was even worse. it was like 2 million in escrow for a grow lcense no personal grows. add to that you could auction your license before ever using it lol. the commitee decides each year who to give licesnes to and its' only a handfull. they base the license off a review conducted by a 10 person panel and it is literally at their sole discretion and it is not a blind application either. i could go on, but this is why i don't support "legalization" nor doi consider a win/progress what many do.
i feel for ya brotha because shit like your talking about is hard to undo. it pacifies too many ppl and breeds complacency. if i even talk like this on some live streams, on twitch for example, i get banned for being like anti recreational etc.. the avg person doesn''t get what is happening, even in lenient places it is destroying the plant thru giving all the genetic selection power to very few, and for a narrow scope/purpose, add to that very little outdoor pollination and no large perosnal grows offsetting this is a disaster waiting to happen imo. diversity will be gone in a decade

Yes exactly, and to further complicate matters, we have these companies selling feminized seed and clone only... greedy capatilists pigs that won’t let their genetic material go? Wtf they call themselves cannabis rights activists and yet don’t promote genetic diversity. It’s akin to Monsanto masquerading as organic seed producers. What they promote is capitalism. The won’t release original Girl Scout cookies cuz then everyone would have them. Heck I don’t even like Girl Scout cookies! There are literally thousands of ridiculous names for breeds of grass that frankly look and taste much like countless other named grasses. And what the heck seed should be fetching 1000 dollars and up ?! Is that not greed rearing it’s ugly head? Heck if I got a great pheno I pass that shit around! If I have a great stable strain in seed - pass that shit around... dude share the love! We think nothing of sharing a doob! Maybe brotha makes an even tastier plant than you have him and he returns the flavour? This ain’t the Sinaloa cartel! This is a network of artisans growing an ancient plant that has been used since before man kept records much more than clay on a rock face.

 

[Old Thcool]

I will never buy feminized seed or a clone. Solemn promise.
All good seed deserves another.

 

[outliergenetix]

Yes exactly, and to further complicate matters, we have these companies selling feminized seed and clone only... greedy capatilists pigs that won’t let their genetic material go? Wtf they call themselves cannabis rights activists and yet don’t promote genetic diversity. It’s akin to Monsanto masquerading as organic seed producers. What they promote is capitalism. The won’t release original Girl Scout cookies cuz then everyone would have them. Heck I don’t even like Girl Scout cookies! There are literally thousands of ridiculous names for breeds of grass that frankly look and taste much like countless other named grasses. And what the heck seed should be fetching 1000 dollars and up ?! Is that not greed rearing it’s ugly head? Heck if I got a great pheno I pass that shit around! If I have a great stable strain in seed - pass that shit around... dude share the love! We think nothing of sharing a doob! Maybe brotha makes an even tastier plant than you have him and he returns the flavour? This ain’t the Sinaloa cartel! This is a network of artisans growing an ancient plant that has been used since before man kept records much more than clay on a rock face.

here is how much trouble we are in. read my post, their response, and my response to them under the picture of that guy dale hunt. to me stuff like this reeks of political and career agendas. this woman who either runs or is high up on this open cannabis thing has a video from the emerald cup and she says she is new to cannabis, yet these are the political movers and shakers lol. these ppl are double dipping etc.. https://www.instagram.com/p/Brnxh1qB8NV/

 

[Old Thcool]

here is how much trouble we are in. read my post, their response, and my response to them under the picture of that guy dale hunt. to me stuff like this reeks of political and career agendas. this woman who either runs or is high up on this open cannabis thing has a video from the emerald cup and she says she is new to cannabis, yet these are the political movers and shakers lol. these ppl are double dipping etc.. https://www.instagram.com/p/Brnxh1qB8NV/

Can you say MONSANTO? That lawyer could put handcuffs on growers using any part of their genetic material in reproduction. Total bullshit. Next someone will patent air and water! Oh wait Nestle has been actively pursuing that already.

 

[curious2garden]

I will never buy feminized seed or a clone. Solemn promise.
All good seed deserves another.

I breed using regular seed as well as making fems for my own use and protection. For example last year I did F2's of Bodhi Jabba's Stash, Snow Temple and Dragon Fruit and I had hoped to spend this year going through his genetics. Unfortunately I had my last Cali Connection Pre98 Bubba Kush on the table and the only way to replicate that strain (which I do not wish to lose since it's jackpot for pain relief and sleep), is feminize it. I did the same with Joesy Wales GG#4 and the S2s are stable, and extremely close to their parents.

There is a place for selfing in Cannabis. I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, ymmv

 

[Old Thcool]

I breed using regular seed as well as making fems for my own use and protection. For example last year I did F2's of Bodhi Jabba's Stash, Snow Temple and Dragon Fruit and I had hoped to spend this year going through his genetics. Unfortunately I had my last Cali Connection Pre98 Bubba Kush on the table and the only way to replicate that strain (which I do not wish to lose since it's jackpot for pain relief and sleep), is feminize it. I did the same with Joesy Wales GG#4 and the S2s are stable, and extremely close to their parents.

There is a place for selfing in Cannabis. I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, ymmv

If you chose to do that to preserve material and not market it- do eeet. But the moment you start selling locked genetic material. Hmm? Now I know you can do breeding to some extent with femmed seed but it totally sends the wrong message. Traditionally, seed was traded for goods and services in the old world. Crops were left to self pollinate. Then money got in the way.

 

[curious2garden]

If you chose to do that to preserve material and not market it- do eeet. But the moment you start selling locked genetic material. Hmm? Now I know you can do breeding to some extent with femmed seed but it totally sends the wrong message. Traditionally, seed was traded for goods and services in the old world. Crops were left to self pollinate. Then money got in the way.

Once upon a time we believed in spontaneous generation, now we understand Mendelian Genetics. I'm not breeding to send a message. I'm hunting for pain relief phenotypes and it's attendant cannabinoids.

 

[outliergenetix]

I breed using regular seed as well as making fems for my own use and protection. For example last year I did F2's of Bodhi Jabba's Stash, Snow Temple and Dragon Fruit and I had hoped to spend this year going through his genetics. Unfortunately I had my last Cali Connection Pre98 Bubba Kush on the table and the only way to replicate that strain (which I do not wish to lose since it's jackpot for pain relief and sleep), is feminize it. I did the same with Joesy Wales GG#4 and the S2s are stable, and extremely close to their parents.

There is a place for selfing in Cannabis. I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, ymmv

yea feminization can bea tool. i don't take issue with that at all except when say the entire country of morrocco switches from their old cultivars of thousands of years to feminized in one years time that kills the plant gene pool in the region. . not gonna explain the herm thing but it isn't really the selfing that causes it, it's just if it is in the genes it will come out moreoften because it is half the gene pool available thus exasperating a problem that existed not causing it. basically it's definitely a useful breeding tool, and i would use it however i am not for replacing these old cultivars with feminized genetics en masse

 

[cannabineer]

yea feminization can bea tool. i don't take issue with that at all except when say the entire country of morrocco switches from their old cultivars of thousands of years to feminized in one years time that kills the plant gene pool in the region. . not gonna explain the herm thing but it isn't really the selfing that causes it, it's just if it is in the genes it will come out moreoften because it is half the gene pool available thus exasperating a problem that existed not causing it. basically it's definitely a useful breeding tool, and i would use it however i am not for replacing these old cultivars with feminized genetics en masse

Do you seriously imagine that the locals would not keep large stocks of seed for their best strains? NO farmer anywhere will completely trust a new technology, especially one that is monopolistic. Feminized seeds are, by definition, difficult to propagate without special procedures, which makes them easier to monopolize. That is how one cedes control to the center, and somehow I don't think that is the Moroccan way.
Thus I suggest that you're mounting a straw man argument.

 

[outliergenetix]

Do you seriously imagine that the locals would not keep large stocks of seed for their best strains? NO farmer anywhere will completely trust a new technology, especially one that is monopolistic. Feminized seeds are, by definition, difficult to propagate without special procedures, which makes them easier to monopolize. That is how one cedes control to the center, and somehow I don't think that is the Moroccan way.
Thus I suggest that you're mounting a straw man argument.

yes, yes i do think they will. mainly becaue they are. this is not the only article either but this was written like days ago so follow up if you care to inform yourself on what has been going on allover the world with auto and fem commercial seeds replacing old cultivars in morrocco and elswhere. hell greenhouse seeds single handedly destroyed so many cultivars for the last 10 years or more than i care to get into
https://cbdmagnates.com/2018/12/21/weed-farming-moroccan-style-with-autoflower-seeds/