should I remove tie downs at beginning of flower?
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Nutzach91
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ya I tied all branches on the lower portion. I'm just not sure if it will effect the stretch at all?
evergreengardener
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It wont effect anything if you un do them your plant will be standing upright in just a day or 2
Thundercat
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I would not undo your Tie downs. The plant will try to stand back up. You trained it with the tie downs to start with. Let them do their job 
. The will continue I stabilize and help support the plant in flower.
. The will continue I stabilize and help support the plant in flower.
jcloud777
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I agree, but I think after after the stem starts getting bigger an more hollow it should stay sideways not 100% though
Nutzach91
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Awesome thanks man, ya today is Day 1 flower so I will leave them on for sure.I would not undo your Tie downs. The plant will try to stand back up. You trained it with the tie downs to start with. Let them do their job
evergreengardener
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Even if that part of the stem stays sideways it will bend like a U right back up to the light during flowering i have plenty of firsthand knowledge of this
Thundercat
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Did you switch your lights today or did the plant start showing flowers today?
I ask because it's a common mistake to start counting flower time the day you switch. The plant takes time to transition into flower, it's not instant.
It typically takes 7-14 days depending on strain, environment and genetic maturity.
If you start counting to early, in 8-10 weeks your gonna be wondering why they aren't done yet.
Nutzach91
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I was always under the impression that you count the day of switch. Learn something new everyday. The big one is a regular photoperiod seed and It was 50 days from sprout yesterday and I believe it already has preflowers
Thundercat
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There are lots of stoners that count from the 12/12 switch but that's not how plant science works. Most of those same stoners dot understand why a breeder says 8 weeks and their plant is isn't done in "8 weeks of 12/12".
jcloud777
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There's no telling what's what. People say 1 week after you first see hairs is officially day 1. First of day light switch 12/12 is officially day 1 flower. Or they say also when you first see pistols is day 1 flowering official. There's no science involved in counting first day of flowering. Your a scientist? You said people don't understand how science works. What's scientific about it just asking not trying to sound mean. Flowering finish times vary from pheno to pheno. Why does it even matter to count?
Thundercat
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Its doesn't matter if you count or not, I don't anymore, but many new growers do count. Having an accurate grasp on what your plant is actually doing is important to understanding its growth.
If you are growing a plant outside in nature, you would say it has began to flower once you saw flowers start to form. There is no specific date outside that it happens and its actually the same inside. Each strain and pheno will take different amounts of time to transition into flower. The genetic maturity of the plants also has an impact on this. So it makes no sense to say a plant is flowering that won't be showing any signs of flowering for another 7-14 days.
I'm not a scientist nor am I trying to fight about this. There are people on both sides of this debate just like many things. I have based my viewpoints on years of growing and researching plant growth.
If you are growing a plant outside in nature, you would say it has began to flower once you saw flowers start to form. There is no specific date outside that it happens and its actually the same inside. Each strain and pheno will take different amounts of time to transition into flower. The genetic maturity of the plants also has an impact on this. So it makes no sense to say a plant is flowering that won't be showing any signs of flowering for another 7-14 days.
I'm not a scientist nor am I trying to fight about this. There are people on both sides of this debate just like many things. I have based my viewpoints on years of growing and researching plant growth.