My Breeding Project

[Booyah!]

Alright well I just found this side of the message board. Yes! My favorite subject breeding .

I started a big project last year. It all started with taking in new outside seeds. This was a risk to me, but I wanted something with more of a Kush direction.

Only one line out of the three was kept. After finding instability in the other two genepools verified across two farms.

OG Kush x (Chem D x (Chem 4 x Strawberry Cough)) was the only new locally bred line used. It had a pungent robust smell and a good OG structure on the keepers. There was a lot of variation and an early almost auto-flowering trait in some phenotypes that was selected away from. The male and the female both selected were OG Kush leaning in lanky structure plus both finished on season with no intersexual traits. The male smelled like Kush and the female more of a Chemical burning electronic smell. F2s should have more of a consistent OG lanky structure with a pungent mix of robust odors.

That same stud male was mixed with a Triangle Kush
Private Reserve
Valley Girl by Archive Seeds.

(Hundreds of seeds were made)

Also a Pure Kush Topanga was aquired and once smoked I immediately decided to to breed towards it. So for this breeding project I am going to seed the PK with the Kushiest male/males I find in the last years seed project.



Pure Kush Topanga (Female)


A test grow of last years seed line to look for a suitable male to match with the PK.

 

[Crash32097]

Looking Sharp dude, just started breeding a couple years ago for my own personal seed stash! You doing open pollination or painting branches? Have bred a few gems and have had some less desirable ones come through. Looking good bro, I'll come back by for updates!

 

[xtsho]

I'm jealous

 

[Booyah!]

Thanks!

Id like to check out what you've bred. I really like when people breed their own lines.

Last year was the first year I successfully isolated males and pollinated using a brush. I grow from seed on my main season and pop around 200+ seeds each year in order to select 8 plants for the space I have (15ft centers). Not only that but I use around a hundred seeds for another farm I supply genetics to. Small plots but we make it happen.

At that rate I was running through too many seeds and needed a lot more to select from. Plus I wanted to breed towards stuff I enjoy that finishes well in my environment and length of season. The reason I grow from seed is because those plants are more vigorous for full season growth (clones don't have tap roots too). If any plants need to be pulled for any reason I will replace them halfway through in July with a clone. They don't get nearly as big but turn out suprisingly good.

Anyways, once the males are identified they are stripped of any imature balls and topped. They are then put in veg indoors for a few weeks. Since they are in veg I don't need to worry about any accidental pollinations. If they don't reveg (Auto traits) they are pulled. I select through the males based on smell and resin content. I then put the remaining males into flower in a negatively pressured room with all air exiting running through a carbon filter. I then reselect out of those males and get rid of any that does not have the vigor and smell range that I'm looking for. Once the pollen starts producing, I lightly scrape the sides of the male colas with the side of a widemouth Mason jar. I put the lid on the jar and use a ox hair brush to paint the white hairs I want to pollinate (I just went into the art store and tried to pick one that felt like what I'd imagine a bee would feel like haha). I am making a bunch of clones of the PK just in case I find more than one male I want to use. I can then just label the side with what male was used so I know what the seeds are. Last year I had virtually no seeds besides where I brushed and was extremely happy with the results compared to previous years.

Thanks for checking it out! I'll post more pics soon.

 

[xjking]

Very interesting. I'll be following as this is a goal for me in the future.

 

[xtsho]

Thanks!

Id like to check out what you've bred. I really like when people breed their own lines.

Last year was the first year I successfully isolated males and pollinated using a brush. I grow from seed on my main season and pop around 200+ seeds each year in order to select 8 plants for the space I have (15ft centers). Not only that but I use around a hundred seeds for another farm I supply genetics to. Small plots but we make it happen.

At that rate I was running through too many seeds and needed a lot more to select from. Plus I wanted to breed towards stuff I enjoy that finishes well in my environment and length of season. The reason I grow from seed is because those plants are more vigorous for full season growth (clones don't have tap roots too). If any plants need to be pulled for any reason I will replace them halfway through in July with a clone. They don't get nearly as big but turn out suprisingly good.

Anyways, once the males are identified they are stripped of any imature balls and topped. They are then put in veg indoors for a few weeks. Since they are in veg I don't need to worry about any accidental pollinations. If they don't reveg (Auto traits) they are pulled. I select through the males based on smell and resin content. I then put the remaining males into flower in a negatively pressured room with all air exiting running through a carbon filter. I then reselect out of those males and get rid of any that does not have the vigor and smell range that I'm looking for. Once the pollen starts producing, I lightly scrape the sides of the male colas with the side of a widemouth Mason jar. I put the lid on the jar and use a ox hair brush to paint the white hairs I want to pollinate (I just went into the art store and tried to pick one that felt like what I'd imagine a bee would feel like haha). I am making a bunch of clones of the PK just in case I find more than one male I want to use. I can then just label the side with what male was used so I know what the seeds are. Last year I had virtually no seeds besides where I brushed and was extremely happy with the results compared to previous years.

Thanks for checking it out! I'll post more pics soon.

Please post more pics.

I'm breeding this right now. It's more than just my typical pollen chuck.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/collaborative-effort.959317/page-4

 

[Booyah!]

Seemed like a good morning to take some pictures. This is fresh after a compost tea brew using worm castings, green sand, Basalt, Oyster shell, fishmeal, neem seed meal, alfalfa, humic acid, and langbienite for this brew. Bubbled in a 55 gallon drum overnight. Sprayed with Serenade foliar during the night and watered with the tea in the morning.

 

[Booyah!]

Pictures of a few of the phenotypes and a group shot.

 

[Booyah!]

I'm really hoping some these are males. These are mostly Polyhybrids of Polyhybrids and the phenotypes are all over the place. I understand that anything found will for sure require some working to stabilize. Seems like a lot of recessives are popping up that look nothing like the parents. The structure even on the fattest leafed ones is somewhat stretched out but in a primarily pole shape. The male I used had a similar structure and I definitely think that structure was dominant in the line. Neither parent had really fat leaves at all so those are an interesting surprize that seems to be a recessive from the male. The last picture is a rare phenotype that looks like the Valley Girl. A phenotype that I came across last year given to me as a clone. It was very frosty and stinky but was about the most lanky plant I've come across. Very strange mix of traits. Almost looks like a tropical sativa but resins up like a hashplant. Its structure and leaf shape do not really show dominate at all but they are out there.

 

[Booyah!]

Please post more pics.

I'm breeding this right now. It's more than just my typical pollen chuck.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/collaborative-effort.959317/page-4

Very nice well thought out breeding project. I'm more than impressed. You're going to have some amazing results starting with such stabilized and refined stock.

 

[Booyah!]

Pure Kush Topanga

 

[Booyah!]

Rain Delay

 

[Booyah!]

Mulched a bunch including a male. Any that were overly weak. Lollipopped and folliage spray with Bacillus subtilis early morning before the sun came up. Smells are everywhere from mint, eucalyptus and pine to cheesy and acrid smells. I can also the male I chose from last year in a lot of these. Very light smells so far though. Here's a few pics.

 

[Booyah!]

Here's a promising looking Triangle Kush hybrid that looks a lot like the TK mother. I don't have the clone right now to compare and have shut the doors for clone gathering this season. TK was my best guess as a good match for the Pure Kush Topanga with a similar yet different smell range. No signs of sex yet. And still early on smells to really confirm.

 

[Booyah!]

Some ultra fat phenotypes started popping up in everything last year's main male touched (even more often in the F2 which confirmed to me that it was more from the male side) . Anyways these were both seedlings off of the Valley Girl hybrid which was an extremely lanky, thin leaved Mother. Phenotypes were all over the place in the offspring with very few sharing as lanky of a structure as the Mother. A few close, but even though my Male used was a lankier of two put aside, it still seemed to add more of an upright structure to even the most lanky phenotypes. Here's a couple of recessive phenotypes that are more on the fat side of the genepool. Seemed to have nice early fat trichomes at an early age too. The second more pointy one is a confirmed female. I hope the first is a male, but no signs yet. The first one has a similar early smell as the early smells off the Pure Kush. Very promising direction so far but much too early to tell.

 

[Booyah!]

Private Reserve seemed to put out more consistent phenotypes than any other Mother. Very Kushy looking leaves. An F2 of these or a backcross might be fun. Hoping for a proper male to work with. Some of the closest to the Pure Kush leaf shape so far. Waiting on the smells to develop.

 

[Booyah!]

And a few of the more lanky sativa looking phenotypes off of the Valley Girl hybrid. It really cracked open the genepool. A lot of recessives. Probably due to it's inbred Polyhybrid background mixed with an inbred Polyhybrid from a dissimular background. In a lot of ways it's instability let me sort through a few recessives that normally would be hidden in a genepool. I will work to stabilize any directions worth keeping. If you look at the fat ones a couple posts above and compare it to these you can get an idea of the range of phenotypes coming from that mother plant. The Mother was a super frosty Sativa looking thing that stunk a lot but was no slouch in the Density department. Almost all the offspring have fatter leaves than the Valley Girl Mother.

 

[Komodoghost]

How's it going so far?

 

[vostok]

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Yip I use those same tomatoe? bags from ebay outta the UK for me about 15 liters tho many can be much larger

cheers/

 

[Komodoghost]

I just use the fabric shopping bags. They work great.