THRIPS

[vtim802]

I think i have thrips can someone post some pictures of what their own thrip damage looked like or what happened so i can compare to what is going on with me?

Can i see them with my naked eye? i have a cheapo loupe and have looked all over the plant and undersides of leaves so dont know what is going on.

when the plants are under the quantum board it looks like yellow dots in random spots, more on the tops but also some in the middle of the plant.

when i take the plants into normal light its not really noticeable as much, but there are definitely spots on the leaves

 

[vtim802]

the leaves have spots for sure, not squiggly lines though if that makes a difference

 

[vtim802]

hard to tell, im waiting for my lights to turn on so i can inspect the plants.

i have looked at that article and others online, its all pretty general information, was looking for how others figured out they had thrips personally so i can definitivitly say i have thrips

if i suspect i have it would it hurt my plants to use a insecticidal spray whether i have thrips or not? that way i could at least eliminate the possibility of thrips being the problem

i just dont want to compound any problem i may currently have

 

[Kingrow1]

there not thrips if they are spots, thrips scratch leaves in a line so to say.

 

[vtim802]

there not thrips if they are spots, thrips scratch leaves in a line so to say.

thanks that answered the question.
the spots dont seem to actually go into the leaf, more like discoloration than actual physical damage so hopefully i can straighten it out.

 

[Kingrow1]

I have had thrips far too many times, one insect that needs respect because nature armed it with ninja skillz thats for sure and it can bring down a weed plant with ease.

You have to accurately identify the bug not the damage at first

 

[Purpsmagurps]

both trolls unite.

 

[Purpsmagurps]

@vtim802 how's the ph?

 

[nurrgle]

Thrips are no biggie anymore. If you have them then you can easily ID them by looking at the bottoms of the leaves they are little white catipilar looking dudes before they grow wings. Easily identifiable with the naked eye. Also if you give you plants a little shake the older ones will be flying by your lights.

Go get some Monterey Garden Spray or another with Spinosad and some yellow sticky traps. Dunk your plants in either a 5gal or a trash can based on size, Monterey will take them out quick and it is a safe pesticide.

You can spray is you want but is not sestemic (spelling), so you have to make sure you spray under your leaves super good. I will put down a tarp and lay the plant on it side.

If you have already flipped then I would just ride it out and clean up after the round.

I use neem and Monterey a couple times in veg as a preventative. Thrips live everywhere so they can be introduced to your garden by your dogs or all kinds of other ways.

 

[tyke1973]

Sticky Strips on each plant ,will help you id any pest you have.I also used Ladybirds and Smc + to good effect over the past few month ,But in all honesty i found just outing every single plant and cleaning everything from top to bottom,i even replaced the polly with all new just in case in flower room.But that was with spidermites and thrips.I was left totally out of all my old genetics,Lost Exodus to it ,but im unsure if it was that, that brought the mites in.I had a little bit of good luck ,for a change and fell on a grower i have wanted to meet for ages,he has all the fire .Nice dude too only too happy to share the goodies,has long has i did not do any trading with them.But i would not do that any how.There strains that are all really nice producers and all very good genetics.

 

[adower]

Spinosad.

 

[vtim802]

https://www.rollitup.org/t/first-time-flipping-to-12-12.980755/

pics

 

[vtim802]

i defoliated at least 20 leaves and looked under all of then and on top of them and couldnt see anything moving or any type of bug.

i did see some weird powderish cystal looking stuff on the bottom of one leaf, and under the loupe i had it looked like a couple pieces of sugar maybe? there were only 3 of them, i dont think it was anything, not sure though

 

[Kingrow1]

Thrips be tiny and masters of hiding, if you disturb them then run up against a leaf rib and press sideways against it, some will choose the new leaf growth, you notice leaves exoanding with parts missing as fresh growth is their favourite.

They scratch the top layer of leafcto feed, this makes silver white lines marks. A bad infestations and whole leaves be covered in this.

They jump or fall off leaves as another survival tactic. They tend to come up or down to the soil at lights on or off, with enough patience you can see them climb down the main stem at lights on.

Adults seem shit gliers, longer than gnats easily identified, the stage before is when they are fuckers and feed on the leaves. The adults dont feed if i remember correctlyso not much an issue.

The adults like to lay eggs on leaves directly over the soil, you can somtimes find them, ehen the young (one of their many larval stages) drop out they need to land in the moist soil or they quickly die on thecgrowroom floor.

I get them from garden centres not reputable hydro shops but they can vector in on your grow especially soil from outside.

Thrips can outlast controls, its best to use a few, me i like predator mites and wasps with some soil treatment mosquito dunk or whatever type thing. I can manually remove them but takes skill and on a bigger plot no chance so if small tent you can try to lower numbers.

Nature gave these fuckers skillz, when you see one it sometimes runs and hides like it knows your their. One trick to fool these fuckers - gently breath where you think some are, right up on them, these and a few bugs are suckers for increases in co2 and will leave there hiding place to investigate a lot of times.

Kinda know you enemy but i get them from time to time so lots of practice.
Outdoor and big grows need more than i give id assume

 

[Kingrow1]

both trolls unite.

Ill unite your face with my klingon death grip then beam half of you back to your parents and the other half back to that chick in highschool you always wanted but knocked you back just to let jer know that yer you amounted to not very much...

 

[FlyHigh589]

Thrips be tiny and masters of hiding, if you disturb them then run up against a leaf rib and press sideways against it, some will choose the new leaf growth, you notice leaves exoanding with parts missing as fresh growth is their favourite.

They scratch the top layer of leafcto feed, this makes silver white lines marks. A bad infestations and whole leaves be covered in this.

They jump or fall off leaves as another survival tactic. They tend to come up or down to the soil at lights on or off, with enough patience you can see them climb down the main stem at lights on.

Adults seem shit gliers, longer than gnats easily identified, the stage before is when they are fuckers and feed on the leaves. The adults dont feed if i remember correctlyso not much an issue.

The adults like to lay eggs on leaves directly over the soil, you can somtimes find them, ehen the young (one of their many larval stages) drop out they need to land in the moist soil or they quickly die on thecgrowroom floor.

I get them from garden centres not reputable hydro shops but they can vector in on your grow especially soil from outside.

Thrips can outlast controls, its best to use a few, me i like predator mites and wasps with some soil treatment mosquito dunk or whatever type thing. I can manually remove them but takes skill and on a bigger plot no chance so if small tent you can try to lower numbers.

Nature gave these fuckers skillz, when you see one it sometimes runs and hides like it knows your their. One trick to fool these fuckers - gently breath where you think some are, right up on them, these and a few bugs are suckers for increases in co2 and will leave there hiding place to investigate a lot of times.

Kinda know you enemy but i get them from time to time so lots of practice.
Outdoor and big grows need more than i give id assume

The silver and black tell-tale thrips sign is actually not them scratching the leaves... it’s their excrement. By far the easiest way to diagnose a thrip issue is their shit and by far the easiest way to remove them, as stated, is https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BWY3OQ/ref=sxts_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543899687&sr=1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65

 

[Purpsmagurps]

Ill unite your face with my klingon death grip then beam half of you back to your parents and the other half back to that chick in highschool you always wanted but knocked you back just to let jer know that yer you amounted to not very much...

I fucked them all

 

[Kingrow1]

The silver and black tell-tale thrips sign is actually not them scratching the leaves... it’s their excrement. By far the easiest way to diagnose a thrip issue is their shit and by far the easiest way to remove them, as stated, is https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BWY3OQ/ref=sxts_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543899687&sr=1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65

I kida thought the silver marks were their damage from feeding, they rasp the leaf and it oozes sugary goodness.

I could be wrong as i never read much anymore

 

[Kingrow1]

I fucked them all

Yannow after all your led claims that one actually sounds believable....

 

[OldMedUser]

Thrip damage looks like little windows in the leaves. Unlike mites that seem to move after each bite into a leaf thrips feed systematically and suck the juices out of cells in a clump that often looks rectangular or a line as they go from cell to cell. Fresh feeding looks shiny/wet and I have no problem seeing the with my reading glasses on but the baby ones are very tiny.

If your garden is small enough you can hunt them down by hand and eventually get rid of them as I've done that a couple times. Easy enough to keep their numbers down so they don't really impact your yields and pot tends to produce more resin when under insect attack so a few thrips might even be a bonus.

Insecticidal soap spray works just fine to kill adults if you do a good job getting under the leaves. 10ml/L of neem or canola oil added to the spray makes it even better. Even Blue Dawn with the oil will do the trick. Every fourth day for 3 or 4 sprays should get rid of them.

Something gooey around the bottom of the main stem can catch the ones crawling back up after falling in the soil. Most thrips are flightless so sticky traps only catch ones that are unfortunate enough to fall or jump onto one. The ones I have had in the past don't fly but they sure can jump fast.