Dividedsky
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haha I like the dynagro slogan- beyond organic
What's the worst broscience you've heard?
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ANC
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Natural organic nutrients is basically dead leaves and insects that accumulate throughout the season.
Nature isn't filled with piles of manure and dead animals (most of the time)
About 2 inches worth of decayed leaf matter will replenish just about everything you can take out in a year growing in the soil.
Nature isn't filled with piles of manure and dead animals (most of the time)
About 2 inches worth of decayed leaf matter will replenish just about everything you can take out in a year growing in the soil.
youraveragehorticulturist
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Flushing is an interesting one.
Every once in awhile my plants will look like shit. Simultaneously showing nutrient burns and nutrient diffincies and looking over watered. If I water until run-off, the run-off comes out a gross piss yellow. As if there was gross poison in my pots and flushing cleared it out. Then my plants perk up and look good again.
Hydro guys often feed/ water, feed/water... In effect "flushing" out the old nutrients with plain water, then starting over with fresh nutrients. Who know what kind of ph or lockout issues you can develop dumping those weird ionic compounds or "nutrients" (bro science alert!) on top of eachother for weeks.
I don't know about 2 week flushing protocols to increase dankness, or special flushing chemicals. But you can Certainly flush to eliminate undesireable buidup and Stop fucking your plant up.
Every once in awhile my plants will look like shit. Simultaneously showing nutrient burns and nutrient diffincies and looking over watered. If I water until run-off, the run-off comes out a gross piss yellow. As if there was gross poison in my pots and flushing cleared it out. Then my plants perk up and look good again.
Hydro guys often feed/ water, feed/water... In effect "flushing" out the old nutrients with plain water, then starting over with fresh nutrients. Who know what kind of ph or lockout issues you can develop dumping those weird ionic compounds or "nutrients" (bro science alert!) on top of eachother for weeks.
I don't know about 2 week flushing protocols to increase dankness, or special flushing chemicals. But you can Certainly flush to eliminate undesireable buidup and Stop fucking your plant up.
Uli Von Roth
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"...showing signs of nutrient burn and deficiency" it's nutrient burn pure and simple.The idea that calcium deficiency looks like necrosis.If it looks like necrosis it is necrosis.Caused by force feeding ,hot lights and dry climate.
Roger A. Shrubber
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you are leaching....that's using water to remove an unwanted substance from your soil, usually depleted salts from improper application of fertilizers.
"flushing" is supposed to remove excess nutrients from the buds of your plant, so they smoke "cleaner"...to remove any unused nutrients left in the buds. and that doesn't work. the first problem is over feeding. if you aren't over feeding, there aren't any "excess" nutes to remove. plants absorb ions of nutrients, most of which are used in the building of the plant cells. you cannot ever move them, without destroying the structure of the plant. N, K, and Zinc are considered mobile, and magnesium and phosphorous are somewhat mobile. that means the plant can draw them from older growth to supply newer growth. it doesn't mean you can get them to move when you want them to, where you want them to.
youraveragehorticulturist
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Yes! So I believe I can "Un force feed" by flushing away the excess nutrients around my roots!
Like puking to stop further alcohol absorbtion if I drink too much.
Uli Von Roth
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Every nutrient does something.People don't seem to get that.They are used to build compounds ..to act as a catalyst to divide compounds to create energy...as a actual physical building material(calcium)...to create enzymes and amino acids... to make complex proteins.The plant is working on a molecular level it takes H2O and removes the o and uses hydrogen atoms to bind with other atoms to create what it needs.Its only when the plant is given too much fertilizer that the plant will have excess nutrients do to diffusion the principal that molecules in liquid travel to where there are less molecules.Plants evolved to take advantage of this law of physics but it's not designed to cope with overdose as this isn't a natural occurrence. Just don't over feed.
Uli Von Roth
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i top dress with ice cubes to trick the plant into thinking it's winter.Thats up there with hanging them upside down so the drugs drain from the roots.
Observe & Report
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mainlining, a.k.a. "brobonsai" trying to create a perfect "manifold" when you can just fill a screen
grilledcheese101
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Serverchris
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I wouldn't consider that bro science since it works and works well and is easier to do than a screen. It sucks not being able to move your plants or get to them for the entire flower cycle.
youraveragehorticulturist
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Training is useful.
Topping, LST and screens are all cool. But it's important to remember what you're trying to accomplish. Getting the most out of your lights/plants.
People definetly go overboard sometimes with mainlining or screens. Like getting so into the technique, and having a cool looking setup, they forget about the real goal. But if this is a hobby, tinkering around is understandable.
Remember that Heath guy's subterranean, flooded tube vertical grow from the moon? That was awesome, but damn!
Topping, LST and screens are all cool. But it's important to remember what you're trying to accomplish. Getting the most out of your lights/plants.
People definetly go overboard sometimes with mainlining or screens. Like getting so into the technique, and having a cool looking setup, they forget about the real goal. But if this is a hobby, tinkering around is understandable.
Remember that Heath guy's subterranean, flooded tube vertical grow from the moon? That was awesome, but damn!
Stiickygreen
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I always love to read about folks growing a full on indica....but then talking about how they can harvest it when the trichs are clear for a "speedy, up high". Or....they grow a long flowering sativa...and claim that if let it go too long it's a magically gonna turn into a couchlock indica high. Yeah...sure thing, "bro". Works just like that. Grow anything...just watch for the color of the trichs to dictate the high yer gonna get...off the same fuckin plant. Tell us more bro....
Observe & Report
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the broscience part is having a perfectly even manifold of stems imparts some benefits beyond just doing "LST" which is just a fancy term for tying that bitch down, specifically in manifolding the nutes are ostensibly distributed evenly to all the buds and you get an even canopy
the real science is the opposite: growing tips produce auxins that flow down with gravity and inhibit the growth of nodes further down. If you use any method to manipulate the height of nodes, the highest ones always grow out. SCROG just happens to be one of the best methods for keeping nodes all the same height without a lot of work tying down individual branches as the plant explodes in growth. I have attached screens to pots on sticks to make scrogs mobile, lots of possibilities...
Serverchris
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Oh, ok that I can agree with, i thought you were simply saying that manifolding plants didnt work well.
churchhaze
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sulfur feeds the trichs. (yet the trichs are low in sulfur)
I've seen no evidence of this.
I've seen no evidence of this.