ancient virus responsible for THC and CBD developing

Roger A. Shrubber

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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/11/181126105506.htm

one small genetic factor, and we would have never had weed......wonder what the world would have been like with no weed.......not good....
i'm concerned about genetically engineered cannabis....they have barely scratched the surface of possible research and they're already talking about altering the genome....how about figuring out what you have in your hand before you start playing god with it?
 
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Bodyne

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plant growth regulators are the first step, you got guys using them and braggin about it, cause it takes good pics, lol.

There are two types of known PGR’s, naturally derived and chemically derived. Chemically derived hormones aim to either interfere with synthesis and hormone breakdown or mimic pre-existing hormones. This interference often encourages denser growth and higher yields. Many growers claim that PGR’s help produce cannabis that grows “healthier” and has a higher resistance to disease. However, these unnatural attributes come with a heavy cost.

Chemically-derived PGRs are known to cause cancer, infertility, poison the liver and are classified as environmental pollutants. In the late 1980’s the Environmental Protection Agency banned the use of several PGRs because it was estimated that the exposure to these PGR’s could result in a cancer risk 240 times greater than considered acceptable by E.P.A. It is important to note that these PGRs were made illegal in the food industry, yet the cannabis industry had flown under the radar when it comes to illegal use of PGR’s.

A common misconception is that all PGRs are negative, however that is not true. There are natural PGR's everywhere in the surrounding environment such as Kelp, Chitosan, and Tricontanol. There are natural solutions to chemical PGRs.

However, many popular fertilizer companies utilize the chemically derived PGR’s in their products, and growers are unaware of the dangers they pose to the consumer population. So, how do you protect yourself in the Colorado cannabis market? Here are a few tips on how to decipher your label and what really goes into your smoke.


Pictured above is a Colorado recreational ingredients list, found on the back of all Colorado recreational marijuana products. This specific product indicates the use of illegal pesticides, as a result this company was penalized by the Marijuana Enforcement Department. This ingredient list is where you may find the use of the following chemically derived PGR’s: Chlormequat chloride, Daminozide, Paclobutrazol, and Uniconazole.
Ask your budtender if their product is grown with harmful PGR’s. For more information pertaining to harmful PGR’s go to www.fda.gov . Know what you smoke and take the time to educate yourself on the possible dangers PGRs. It is worth your time, so you can enjoy your mountain high to the fullest!
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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myclobutanil is supposed to be banned in Colorado.
abamectin is allowed, but is considered highly toxic.
(i)midaclorprid is safe dermally, but not if inhaled
spiromessifin is safe for vegetables, but no research on smoking it
abamectin is the same, safe for food, no research on smoking.....
why do these big professionals need all this shit? i get by with a bottle of spinosad and a bottle of pyrethrins, and don't use either in flower......keep your shit clean, treat any plants you have outside before you bring them in....these are supposed to be pros, a pair of white overalls when you go in the greenhouse would be too much trouble? leave your street clothes in a locker room, along with the thrips, mites, and flies that you've been in contact with on your way to work
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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There should be tons of research/new info coming our way with legalization in Canada.
i both hope and fear so.....information is neutral, neither good or evil....people, on the other hand, are depressingly predictable. they look for ways to make more money......they may start out with noble goals, but they all end up at the same place....practical application requires turning a thing into a product, products are sold for profit, and profit makes people turn into thoughtless, greedy, shameless pieces of shit......i don't want genetically engineered weed. ever. period. i don't want anyone to have control of it. ever. period.
the government gets involved, they start spraying shit, and all weed is now hemp.......tell me that couldn't happen......tell me trump wouldn't start the program tomorrow if he could......
 

SB85

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i both hope and fear so.....information is neutral, neither good or evil....people, on the other hand, are depressingly predictable. they look for ways to make more money......they may start out with noble goals, but they all end up at the same place....practical application requires turning a thing into a product, products are sold for profit, and profit makes people turn into thoughtless, greedy, shameless pieces of shit......i don't want genetically engineered weed. ever. period. i don't want anyone to have control of it. ever. period.
the government gets involved, they start spraying shit, and all weed is now hemp.......tell me that couldn't happen......tell me trump wouldn't start the program tomorrow if he could......


I agree. I am 100% against the greed that the smell of a new gold rush brings from big corps.
 

zoic

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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/11/181126105506.htm

one small genetic factor, and we would have never had weed......wonder what the world would have been like with no weed.......not good....
i'm concerned about genetically engineered cannabis....they have barely scratched the surface of possible research and they're already talking about altering the genome....how about figuring out what you have in your hand before you start playing god with it?
I finally finished that article, absolutely fascinating, and very informative. Thanks for the link Roger.
 

dandyrandy

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Our bodies would not be what they are without viral evolutionary forces. With advances in genome sequencing and computational tools to analyze genomic information, researchers are able to estimate that about 8 percent of the human genome is made of sequences that originated as invasive retroviruses. To put that number in perspective, genes4 make up about 1 percent to 1.5 percent of your genome.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Geez Roger, do have locust in your car or something, LOL. I could not help myself, that picture just jumped into my head. :shock:o_O(:
i live in the woods, all i have to do is go outside and there's a chance i'm bring all that stuff back in with me...i found a damn snail a couple of months ago......how did a snail get in my house, 20 feet from the nearest door, up two steps, into my room with no windows......?
 

dandyrandy

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i live in the woods, all i have to do is go outside and there's a chance i'm bring all that stuff back in with me...i found a damn snail a couple of months ago......how did a snail get in my house, 20 feet from the nearest door, up two steps, into my room with no windows......?
I found a baby blue tail skink in the house by the patio door. Maybe an inch long. It probably came in from the deck when the screen was open.
 

zoic

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LOL, I have had a few myself. Squirrel and mice (cats love to play with them). Thankfully the screen was closed when the rabbit and skunk came by. That skunk walked right by me in the front. I froze and a few minutes later he snuck back and almost walked on my fucking foot. I do a really good statue. o_O
 

vtim802

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cannabis comes from a planet that had longer than 12 hr dark periods all the time.

the africans said the aliens brought it from the dog star, thus the canine( canna ) part of the name.

thats some real shit, what other plant on this planet comes close to how the plant grows, flowers, expands your mind, interacts with treating other human problems.

cannabis is a gift from the gods to help the alien part of us, because come on, we are all half ape half alien
 

Old Thcool

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plant growth regulators are the first step, you got guys using them and braggin about it, cause it takes good pics, lol.

There are two types of known PGR’s, naturally derived and chemically derived. Chemically derived hormones aim to either interfere with synthesis and hormone breakdown or mimic pre-existing hormones. This interference often encourages denser growth and higher yields. Many growers claim that PGR’s help produce cannabis that grows “healthier” and has a higher resistance to disease. However, these unnatural attributes come with a heavy cost.

Chemically-derived PGRs are known to cause cancer, infertility, poison the liver and are classified as environmental pollutants. In the late 1980’s the Environmental Protection Agency banned the use of several PGRs because it was estimated that the exposure to these PGR’s could result in a cancer risk 240 times greater than considered acceptable by E.P.A. It is important to note that these PGRs were made illegal in the food industry, yet the cannabis industry had flown under the radar when it comes to illegal use of PGR’s.

A common misconception is that all PGRs are negative, however that is not true. There are natural PGR's everywhere in the surrounding environment such as Kelp, Chitosan, and Tricontanol. There are natural solutions to chemical PGRs.

However, many popular fertilizer companies utilize the chemically derived PGR’s in their products, and growers are unaware of the dangers they pose to the consumer population. So, how do you protect yourself in the Colorado cannabis market? Here are a few tips on how to decipher your label and what really goes into your smoke.


Pictured above is a Colorado recreational ingredients list, found on the back of all Colorado recreational marijuana products. This specific product indicates the use of illegal pesticides, as a result this company was penalized by the Marijuana Enforcement Department. This ingredient list is where you may find the use of the following chemically derived PGR’s: Chlormequat chloride, Daminozide, Paclobutrazol, and Uniconazole.
Ask your budtender if their product is grown with harmful PGR’s. For more information pertaining to harmful PGR’s go to www.fda.gov . Know what you smoke and take the time to educate yourself on the possible dangers PGRs. It is worth your time, so you can enjoy your mountain high to the fullest!
Man! That list looks terrifying! Especially the Unicornizol! What the hell is Unicorn a anything doing incannabis? My dope has soil made of soil and poo and rotted plants. I don’t recall any unicorns around here? Maybe if I could get some unicorn poo? I just might try it?
 

bearded.beaver

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Great article how thc and cbd are similar yet different and how the plant evolved to make them.
But the still doesn't answer the question of why our brains have receptors for them. We must have evolved together in some way for our biolocal system to utilize them our endocannabinoid system. (Don't know if that spelled correctly, spellcheck sucks)
Anyway. Humans have evolved to utilize those molecules in a beneficial way and we are just learning about it. The prohibition of cannabis will be looked at as a stupid mistake in our history as human beings
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Great article how thc and cbd are similar yet different and how the plant evolved to make them.
But the still doesn't answer the question of why our brains have receptors for them. We must have evolved together in some way for our biolocal system to utilize them our endocannabinoid system. (Don't know if that spelled correctly, spellcheck sucks)
Anyway. Humans have evolved to utilize those molecules in a beneficial way and we are just learning about it. The prohibition of cannabis will be looked at as a stupid mistake in our history as human beings
no, no reason for us to have "evolved together" for there to be receptor sites in our brains....the brain is basically a big sponge with a huge amount of receptor cells, many things will bond with those receptor sites, they aren't custom designed for cannabinoids..any molecule that has the right end sticking out will bond with them...just fortunate for us that it worked out the way it did...
we didn't "evolve" with streptomycin, we didn't evolve with LSD, we didn't evolve with aspirin....just good for us it works out that way
 

bearded.beaver

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no, no reason for us to have "evolved together" for there to be receptor sites in our brains....the brain is basically a big sponge with a huge amount of receptor cells, many things will bond with those receptor sites, they aren't custom designed for cannabinoids..any molecule that has the right end sticking out will bond with them...just fortunate for us that it worked out the way it did...
we didn't "evolve" with streptomycin, we didn't evolve with LSD, we didn't evolve with aspirin....just good for us it works out that way

My mistake I listened to some podcast a while ago and I was under the understanding that the receptor were specifically shaped to accept the cannabinoids. I have no problem being corrected thanks for the proper information. Keep up the good work.
 
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