Heisenbeans Genetics

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ky farmer

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This is her on a run i just finished up.#trianglemints3 AKA wedding cake.these pics were taken by me and are my intellectual property.It wont take long before i see them on attitudes or wherever with fast buds autoflowers selling wedding cake autos lol.

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When you get fem, of this made please send me a pm and I will buy a few packs to try next spring.
 

Greenthumbs256

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I honestly don't think anyone should Own the rights to a fucking plant! it's a plant, and it's been around long before any of us and will be around long after us! if you Wanna own the name w.e. I don't care! but how I feel once I have paid for and own something That makes it mine and I will do what I please with it! I'm actually very greatful that ppl like heisen, and very many others have decided to do things like this, bc without those ppl doing what they do, I wouldn't have access to some of these incredible crosses! if only one dam person owed a specific strain, that would be almost considered a monopoly, which is illigal in this amazing country of ours! well for the most part but I won't get into that!
 

Greenthumbs256

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I agree with you but that shows there just pissed that they can not control the market of weed.
no one person or group should be able to control it! that's just how I feel!

pot is here for us to heal, connect, all that hippy shit, not for someone to get rich, corner the market, and be greedy as fuck bc they got lucky, I wish that everyone would sell beans and crosses, in 10 years, there wouldn't be any more shit weed left! fuck it I'm glad heisen is doing this, and I'll be one of the first to support his ass, although from the looks of it there may be a line around the dam block, but I'll wait!
 

socaljoe

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This is her on a run i just finished up.#trianglemints3 AKA wedding cake.these pics were taken by me and are my intellectual property.It wont take long before i see them on attitudes or wherever with fast buds autoflowers selling wedding cake autos lol.

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Have you thought about watermarking your pics? Or at least those you post? I know they'll just crop or Photoshop it out, but at least they have to work for it.
 

NoWaistedSpace

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I have a question about fem a plant. When using the CS,
can it produce seeds that won't sprout and what would be the reason? For instance outer shell to hard to crack open?
Reason I am asking is I planted CVS Pure Ghost 2 different times and nothing got above ground. Had issues with "Cheap Thrills" also.
 

Heisenbeans

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I have a question about fem a plant. When using the CS,
can it produce seeds that won't sprout and what would be the reason? For instance outer shell to hard to crack open?
Has nothing to do with the femming process.more on conditions when they was made.

Temp humidity P levels all.play a role.the healthier the plants the better the seeds.
Hydro seeds are the bees knees bro in a controlled environment.big fat seeds lol.
 

dstroy

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If that is true it is BS IMO.I heard straight from rascals mouth arguing with Koma the other day that he did NOT find white fire OG.He got a cut from the florida Triangle and had it in his garden.

He said straight up it was the best OG cut he had in his garden so he renamed the cut to Fire OG and started using it to create WIFI and others,but that cut was basically OG KUSH that alot of people already had.Several people watching the feed heard him say it and comments after wards were funny.

The Wifi is known for throwing balls and i wont be using any White or Wifi clones in anything ever in the future.
He copyrighted the name only, copyrighting covers bodies of work, which doesn’t include plants but would include pics, journals, etc. all that. Now he can sue if people use it without his permission if he did indeed copyright the name.

Once this is legal federally, breeders will be protected under plant breeders rights, but right now they aren’t afforded any protection or have any legal recourse.

PBR is distinctly different from patent law. You can bring suit under it if you fall under it, which breeders will if they can prove their variety is original.
 

GreenHighlander

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He copyrighted the name only, copyrighting covers bodies of work, which doesn’t include plants but would include pics, journals, etc. all that. Now he can sue if people use it without his permission if he did indeed copyright the name.

Once this is legal federally, breeders will be protected under plant breeders rights, but right now they aren’t afforded any protection or have any legal recourse.

PBR is distinctly different from patent law. You can bring suit under it if you fall under it, which breeders will if they can prove their variety is original.
This is exactly what some very big companies are pursuing here in Canada. They are actually attempting very similar things that have been done by monsanto. They actually are wanting to patent terpines and cannabinoids in an attempt to claim ownership.
PS the robots that run your grow are kick ass man!!!!

Cheers :)
 

dstroy

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This is exactly what some very big companies are pursuing here in Canada. They are actually attempting very similar things that have been done by monsanto. They actually are wanting to patent terpines and cannabinoids in an attempt to claim ownership.
PS the robots that run your grow are kick ass man!!!!

Cheers :)
Thanks man, the robots do it all.

They might be able to if they can change them in a way as to make them original.

Yep, the only two entities I can name off the top of my head that have seed patents are DuPont and Monsanto. There are other large ag businesses that have them too.
 

NoWaistedSpace

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Has nothing to do with the femming process.more on conditions when they was made.

Temp humidity P levels all.play a role.the healthier the plants the better the seeds.
Hydro seeds are the bees knees bro in a controlled environment.big fat seeds lol.
Yea yea, we hear ya "bragging" about your Hydro setup. lol
I'm having some issues with another breeders Fem seeds popping. Just 2 strains specifically from the breeder. Was wondering why only 2 of the 5 strains are doing it. All were planted in same grow medium.
Organic rules! lol
 

Greenthumbs256

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Yea yea, we hear ya "bragging" about your Hydro setup. lol
I'm having some issues with another breeders Fem seeds popping. Just 2 strains specifically from the breeder. Was wondering why only 2 of the 5 strains are doing it. All were planted in same grow medium.
Organic rules! lol
yea I have to side with him, organics for life, and I'm not talking that bottled shit that says it's organic, I mean true living soil, and the food web! if done right you don't have to know how to grow, the micro beasties do everything, I just sit back and harvest! just started activating some em1 foe the next run!

and I'm far from a hippy literally this is only organic thing in my life, hell I just order a big ass pizza, and got delivery lmfao!
 

Getgrowingson

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He copyrighted the name only, copyrighting covers bodies of work, which doesn’t include plants but would include pics, journals, etc. all that. Now he can sue if people use it without his permission if he did indeed copyright the name.

Once this is legal federally, breeders will be protected under plant breeders rights, but right now they aren’t afforded any protection or have any legal recourse.

PBR is distinctly different from patent law. You can bring suit under it if you fall under it, which breeders will if they can prove their variety is original.
Their doing it in canada now by putting genetic markers in the dna and copyright that. There’s a company that partnered with weed md in canada not to long ago and that’s their whole business
 

althor

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Well Jbeezy didn't discover Triangle Kush or Animal Mints but hes using both of them and used them to create wedding cake.He did not even find the wedding cake,Jungle boys did from a large pheno hunt using his gear.
This is what breeders do.

Every person on this thread that has chucked pollen will have someone somewhere find a fire ass keeper in there gear and it will be given a name.It dont make it your property.
I agree with this. If we start going down this road, then just about every strain is going to have something in it that at one point "belonged" to someone else.

How many plants have some type of skunk in it? 80%? So do we all owe Sam the Skunkman money because he fucked the true skunk plants and now others have used his skunk in strains?
 

jayblaze710

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I agree with this. If we start going down this road, then just about every strain is going to have something in it that at one point "belonged" to someone else.

How many plants have some type of skunk in it? 80%? So do we all owe Sam the Skunkman money because he fucked the true skunk plants and now others have used his skunk in strains?
Is this coming from Phylos’ genetic markers thing? Cuz that’s some bullshit. Genetic markers are only useful if they’re unique and distinct to a population. If they’re finding 80% skunk markers, then it just means they picked shitty markers that aren’t actually unique to skunk.

Everyone needs to take a giant grain of salt with everything from Phylos. Their methods and results wouldn’t fly in a legit scientific publication, not even close.
 

althor

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Is this coming from Phylos’ genetic markers thing? Cuz that’s some bullshit. Genetic markers are only useful if they’re unique and distinct to a population. If they’re finding 80% skunk markers, then it just means they picked shitty markers that aren’t actually unique to skunk.

Everyone needs to take a giant grain of salt with everything from Phylos. Their methods and results wouldn’t fly in a legit scientific publication, not even close.
No that is nothing official just numbers I threw out there as an example...

My point is, skunk is a building block strain from the beginning of high quality so you can bet your bottom dollar that there is skunk in a high percentage of strains today.
 

Tangerine_

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What the hell are you doing here? [ :eyesmoke: ]

many years ago when living in tiny Hee Hawville, TN, as an outsider, I found it hysterical when a WalMart supercenter opened in a town up the road. My brother-in-law at the time, a local, was complaining at a holiday gathering about how WalMart was gonna put the local grocer of many years, E W James, out of business because [James] couldn't match the prices of corporate WM.

I asked him......"so where do y;all buy your groceries?". W/o hesitation, he said "WalMart, 'cause they're cheaper, but that don't mean that it's right."
-You're so fuckin special - I wish I was special :blsmoke:

Walmart has some pretty damn good rib eyes. Smoked and seared a few over the weekend and I'll fully admit they were miles better than the local grocery store.
It's really just about respect right? There's no set rule against it? Ive had somebody copy my paint scheme. Pissed me off. Thats where I'm kinda divided, I don't agree with trying to get rights to a plant but at the same time I don't like copycats. Idk maybe its ok as long as your not taking away from their profits, cause people make money off other people's work all the time, in every aspect of life.
I suppose its about respect but from a consumer standpoint its more about being able to stay relevant for the long haul. Seedbanks are full the brim with "breeders" now and the only few to really make it are the ones who put the time and work in. The rest quickly fall by the wayside.
I don't really have the time or desire to dissect or debate the whole thing today (kinda beat) but if you pay close attention to the ones who "made it" they had several key elements in their favor before they got started.


One a more positive note, I'm a little excited to see what 2019 brings to everyone's gardens. Feels like it might a yr of "pastries" round some these parts :eyesmoke:
 
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