This is the same thing Green Sunshine Company (electric sky) LED grow lights does. They have a "Patent Pending Proprietary Spectrum" That is their big selling point.. It does weird me out. I also dont like it when companies wont tell you the price of their light.. "contact us for quotes"...
I hear you. Maybe they keep things behind the curtain because they really do only want to work with big-money ops. Maybe they really do have the best lights on the market, but they're too costly for hobby/home growers, so they spare themselves the nuisance of having to deal with small-fries that can't afford the price. But there's just something unsettling about that curtain... Then again, I've never worked in their industry, so maybe this is par (haha) for the course.
Even Fluence (arguably the biggest most influential commercial LED grow light company to date) tells you their exact spectrum and what a light costs on their site.
Of course they publish their spectra,
Of course they publish their spectra,
http://www.valoya.com/spectra/
It's a big website. Takes time to go through it. Pricewise you're probably right about since they're from Finland and not the US but doesn't hurt to ask.
In 3 months or so I will be flowering and Fluence and maybe 2 others who use wide band spectra are on my short list. I would love to grab a Veloya setup, (if they're good enough for Bayer and the cannabis dept at the University of Utah they sure as shit good enough for me), but their lawyers are the ones keeping them away from unlicensed growers, not greed.
Fluence, Bios Lighting and Grow-Ray should be on your list of companies to research also. They are doing science based research to see how to get bigger and better buds, not just trying to see what works on the cheap. Scientist occasionally like to eat too so paying a bit extra might be expected.
Anyway I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents and don't want to distract you further. And I apologize to those who don't like people who challenge the status quo and ask them to think. Here's a little ducky for you to hold and make you feel all warm and safe inside. Enjoy.
I guess the counter to this would be that one could very cost effectively add some far red 700-800 nm to the samsung quantum boards and essentially have the same light. Same could be said for blues, infrared, etc. The advantage that has drawn me to HLG (besides price) over fluence, electric sun, etc is the customizability. You can essentially get the best of both worlds if you are willing to put in a little extra groundwork. You can start with a white light source and with a $500 PAR meter and some research you are off to the races, build and modify to your heart's desire.Of course they publish their spectra,
http://www.valoya.com/spectra/
It's a big website. Takes time to go through it. Pricewise you're probably right about since they're from Finland and not the US but doesn't hurt to ask.
In 3 months or so I will be flowering and Fluence and maybe 2 others who use wide band spectra are on my short list. I would love to grab a Veloya setup, (if they're good enough for Bayer and the cannabis dept at the University of Utah they sure as shit good enough for me), but their lawyers are the ones keeping them away from unlicensed growers, not greed.
Fluence, Bios Lighting and Grow-Ray should be on your list of companies to research also. They are doing science based research to see how to get bigger and better buds, not just trying to see what works on the cheap. Scientist occasionally like to eat too so paying a bit extra might be expected.
Anyway I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents and don't want to distract you further. And I apologize to those who don't like people who challenge the status quo and ask them to think. Here's a little ducky for you to hold and make you feel all warm and safe inside. Enjoy.
Depends what your time is worth I used to build alot now I would just buy premade and pick up a shift a work to some the savings aren't worth the time to build
yeah i guess. but you could build it in a day for like $1300 - $1500 and spend the savings on reds. im guesstimating cost but thats gotta be hard to beat, isnt it?
You can get a pre made fixture or kit to cover a 4x4 for under $1k with strips that's alot of drilling and tapping I personally am not comfortable only using thermal tape without screws I would also use heatsinks vs u channel for strips so I guess it depends how you would build it
yeah true! i went 25 x HinFlux L09 so you could do it a lot cheaper than those. Which pre made would you buy?
For complete fixture this https://www.pacificlightconcepts.com/product/plc-6/ the diodes are being updated for the new ones so should be a little more effecient and I bet you could at least get a small discount if you bought a bunch of them.
Hey man! I'm in agreement with you on many things u said, especially using a full/wide, tested & proven spectrum. . I like HLG though & think they're doing a good job @ delivering an efficient, effective, affordable product & theyre offerings color now. They dont rhyme with Commercial opp though w/o Certs.Of course they publish their spectra,
http://www.valoya.com/spectra/
It's a big website. Takes time to go through it. Pricewise you're probably right about since they're from Finland and not the US but doesn't hurt to ask.
In 3 months or so I will be flowering and Fluence and maybe 2 others who use wide band spectra are on my short list. I would love to grab a Veloya setup, (if they're good enough for Bayer and the cannabis dept at the University of Utah they sure as shit good enough for me), but their lawyers are the ones keeping them away from unlicensed growers, not greed.
Fluence, Bios Lighting and Grow-Ray should be on your list of companies to research also. They are doing science based research to see how to get bigger and better buds, not just trying to see what works on the cheap. Scientist occasionally like to eat too so paying a bit extra might be expected.
Anyway I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents and don't want to distract you further. And I apologize to those who don't like people who challenge the status quo and ask them to think. Here's a little ducky for you to hold and make you feel all warm and safe inside. Enjoy.
yeah i was thinking plc. ol greengene and co are pretty competitive
Yeah he does complete fixtures at a great price not the highest effeciency on the market but most growers wouldn't see a difference between his plc6 and an hlg550yeah i was thinking plc. ol greengene and co are pretty competitive
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. Adding too much red can decrease biomass. You need to do some experimenting with the whites you're using which is what Veloya has been doing over the 2 or 3 years they spent experimenting and tweaking their various spectra for cannabis. Watch that video I posted earlier, they talk about that. Sorta like pharmacutical medicine.