$400 to light a 4x4

[Ryante55]

For instance. The Bridgelux EB strips are 180 lumens per watt. The QB-288 V2 is about 177, board level. I said the difference was very slight, but the strips are less expensive and slightly more efficient.

God your so wrong

 

[Olive Drab Green]

So yeah your wrong the lm561c is not more effecient than the lm301b call Samsung ask them since you can't read a data sheet.

F strips: 195lm/w. I’m right.

 

[coreywebster]

I thought this was another thread... Hence the $600 was for top end LEDs.

$400 gives you many options OP. Many many options.

 

[Ryante55]

F strips: 195lm/w. I’m right.

Stupid level 10000 reached congratulations.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

180 lumens per watt at how many watts? The harder you push them the lower the efficiency....

So does everything else. Again, let’s switch back to micromols per joule and look at a QB’s efficiency vs an HPS’s efficiency:

 

[Ryante55]

F strips: 195lm/w. I’m right.

https://www.samsung.com/led/lighting/mid-power-leds/3030-leds/lm301b/

I'll leave this here for you...you didn't even mention a color temp or drive current smh

 

[Yodaweed]

So does everything else. Again, let’s switch back to micromols per joule and look at a QB’s efficiency vs an HPS’s efficiency:

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You really don't get it bro, it has nothing to do with hps.....just like 2 of those boards won't cover a 4x4 it would cover a 2x4. You don't get the simple stuff do you...

 

[Olive Drab Green]

You really don't get it bro, it has nothing to do with hps.....just like 2 of those boards won't cover a 4x4 it would cover a 2x4. You don't get the simple stuff do you...

https://www.samsung.com/led/lighting/mid-power-leds/3030-leds/lm301b/

I'll leave this here for you...you didn't even mention a color temp or drive current smh

 

[Ryante55]

So does everything else. Again, let’s switch back to micromols per joule and look at a QB’s efficiency vs an HPS’s efficiency:

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Yeah what's the drive current? You know how leds work right? Lower current higher effeciency I genuinely hope you realize how wrong you are

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Yeah what's the drive current? You know how leds work right? Lower current higher effeciency I genuinely hope you realize how wrong you are

I’m not wrong, though. And HPS is even more inefficient.

 

[Yodaweed]

Yeah what's the drive current? You know how leds work right? Lower current higher effeciency I genuinely hope you realize how wrong you are

He obviously does not understand LEDs. He thinks they have a set lumen/watt ratio he has not clue about driving them harder or softer to reduce/increase output and reduce/increase efficiency.

Standard idiot LED user doesn't even know what he's using.

 

[Ryante55]

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I'm assuming that's the lm561c numbers....I think you just proved me right

 

[Ryante55]

He obviously does not understand LEDs. He thinks they have a set lumen/watt ratio he has not clue about driving them harder or softer to reduce/increase output and reduce/increase efficiency.

Holy shit we agree on something

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Holy shit we agree on something

I'm assuming that's the lm561c numbers....I think you just proved me right

How did I prove you right? I said the strips were more efficient, and they are.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

He obviously does not understand LEDs. He thinks they have a set lumen/watt ratio he has not clue about driving them harder or softer to reduce/increase output and reduce/increase efficiency.

Standard idiot LED user doesn't even know what he's using.

I know exactly what I’m using and doing. My argument here was that LEDs are as effective and more efficient than the 600w HPS you suggested. You needed someone to point out that Tangie at 64 days isn’t a Sativa, for fuck’s sake.

 

[Yodaweed]

I know exactly what I’m using and doing. My argument here was that LEDs are as effective and more efficient than the 600w HPS you suggested. You needed someone to point out that Tangie at 64 days isn’t a Sativa.

You said 2 LEDs that cover a 2x2 each would cover a 4x4, you are wrong, admit your mistake and move on.

 

[Ryante55]

How did I prove you right? I said the strips were more efficient, and they are.

Your still not understanding...

 

[Ryante55]

How did I prove you right? I said the strips were more efficient, and they are.

Are you talking about a specific hlg fixture? You didn't even post the drive current of the quantum board you know they can be run at different currents right?

 

[Yodaweed]

I know exactly what I’m using and doing. My argument here was that LEDs are as effective and more efficient than the 600w HPS you suggested. You needed someone to point out that Tangie at 64 days isn’t a Sativa, for fuck’s sake.

Tangie isn't a sativa? Guess the breeder is wrong then and every person that has grown it...yeah it's not a landrace but it's definately a sativa. I think you are just trying to show us your ass.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Tangie isn't a sativa? Guess the breeder is wrong then and every person that has grown it...yeah it's not a landrace but it's definately a sativa. I think you are just trying to show us your ass.

It’s a hybrid. There is indica present in Tangie. Which gives it the bulk you showed earlier. Genetically, there are variations. Some use G13 and Afghani, others used a Skunk cross.