Jefferson1977
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Leech/flush is often used interchangeably, but really leech is the word I should use consistently. Often I say flush when I mean to say leech.
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Chunky Stool
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What most folks call "flushing" is really "leaching".
Flushing requires an agent like citric acid, yucca, etc to dissolve excess salt build up.
If you are just running water through the medium, it's leaching.
Jefferson1977
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Cool dude. I too feed a lot less, and never feed hard. You run in soil correct? I run F&D with 80G reservoir. Last run I never got over 1.6 EC the whole flower run with 10 week Sativas. I have never noticed a potency hit, even the study cited earlier did not find a drop in THC with a final leech period.I tested 3 cuttings last year. I ran them each 3 times.
Fertilizer to the very last watering but tapered to plant need.
2 weeks water only
And last week water only.
Yield and potency was affected with a 2 week “flush”
Potency was lower with 1 week “flush
Best results all 3 times fed to the end.
I do water only if they are too green and may only water the last time or two.
If I want to leach pots a low dose of nutes works better to clear out excess as salts attract salts.
Also sometimes looser buds tighten up with proper late feeding for me.
I am a consistent light feeder though. The plants need much less than I originally thought.
That is my experience and opinion.
Jefferson1977
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We used to call it flushing 20 years ago when none of these other products were on the market. Since then the term has evolved.
Chunky Stool
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MichiganMedGrower
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I do grow in potting soil. Like I said I don’t feed much. 1.0 ec is about the highest. 500 ppm. But each watering after the soil depleted of nutrients.
Overfeeding kills potency and flavor.
We should mention the Grow style and medium when having these discussions.
MichiganMedGrower
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I've actually seen 2-part flush products!
I shit you not...
Can’t get good results without a 3 part flush.
homebrewer
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...and that's why you're a fan of flushing/leaching. You need to.
Lucky Luke
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or watering?..haha. "I"ll have to leach my lawn tonight after work"
Lucky Luke
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AN's is just Epsom salts sold at a huge mark up. Clever buggers.I've actually seen 2-part flush products!
I shit you not...
Jefferson1977
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LOL fucking dying laughing over here, you must be part comedian.Can’t get good results without a 3 part flush.
Jefferson1977
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Totally, on a table using pellets with no medium other than clay rocks, you have no buffer. That shit does matter. People like comercial grows feed up to 3.0 EC on bud no flush. Sickening. Fuck them I grow kind buds just for me now. I used to have a license to sell as a DG but that was a hassle for no reward. I just grow for me now. I flush and leech all my personal shit.
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LinguaPeel
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Alright there Confucius. You cant dissolve anything from the plant,you cant chelate shit. All you can do is change root pressure to keep it from uptaking more shit. And harvest before lights on when the plant wants to be chopped.
Why the hell are people over watering at harvest? The internet has got you all fuckin stupid! You would HAVE to block uptake to leech your medium! Pure water and you've got a droopy moldy mess on your hands!
Chunky Stool
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Did you read that in a book?
LinguaPeel
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Long-cured hydro is like my fresh herb though. Sugary/hashy/spicy at best. Basic. But hydro is "harsh" (great word for people whos senses aren't very sharp) until weeks of drying.
Listen dude. The only reason people who grow hydro have to cure there bud for it to taste comparable to fresh organic is because of excess nutes in the plant. Get rid of the fuckery vitamin nutes beforehand and you don't have to cure shit.
Listen closely.. If your "cure" is some seperate event than your dry, and your fresh weed is harsh, you are in damage control/repair/oops i fucked up mode. During cure. Waiting for nutes to break down... While clean (flushed) weed is getting insanely off the charts flavorful, unflushed weed is barely getting tolerable (and still upsets the stomach).
I can cut right off the plant, run through a grinder, throw it on some paper towels, repeat until it will actually burn, and it tastes like sweet sugary hash. Nothing harsh. It never doesn't taste like hash. This hydro chem shit on the other hand has to be "cured" to even get to that level of fresh clean weed (and it can't even get there to be honest). Wonder why?
Why does EVERY hydrofag agree their bud is harsh right off the vine? Chlorophyll doesn't taste that bad, lol. For one because hydro just sucks (no oils no lipids no waxes no flavinoids no phenols), but equally responsible for harsh fresh weed: EXCESS NUTES THAT TAKE WEEKS TO BREAK DOWN.
They dont flush tomatoes or corn eh? Right? But they cure it apparently? It's harsh off the vine? Weed isn't a fuckin tomatoe! Weed has to be flushed! For hydro tards who don't believe in flushing, this is why their bud is harsh until cured! What the fuck do these waterheads not get about their own fuckin crops?
"I dont believe in flushing, I just have to wait 6 weeks for nutes to break down before i can hit my bud"
MichiganMedGrower
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Am I a hybridfag? I like to veg in nutrient rich soil with only well water from sprout and transplant up with fresh potting soil as they grow. Then add bottled base complete nutes (hydro-organic or chemical based both can work fine) when the nutrients deplete in the final pot during flowering.
I always try to err on the side of underfeeding and give low concentration every watering tapering up slowly and then back down during ripening. Many plants are fertilized to the last or second to last watering. I run a multi strain perpetual from seed with staggered harvests for variety and plant count and amount in possession regs.
We cut the plants into similar size branches and hang dry 6-10 days before jarring. Always tastes pretty good right off the branch. Most patients do not want to wait and have never complained of harshness. Quite the opposite. The farmers around here are comparing it to great outdoor weed. Weed that has been grown for generations in the farmland. I have been striving for it since I first tasted a friends fathers flowers. Huge plants dried for months in a barn. Old school.
I still like it better with a good jar regimine for 4-6 weeks. But I have always realized this is really to slowly dry the buds and eliminate chlorophyll.
And faded plants are faded leaves. The buds are the same as a green plant unless you are harvesting old looking yellow buds. Not much bag appeal there
Lighten up. All different style growers produce amazing weed.
Lucky Luke
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I have no idea why you quoted me..I don't grow in hydro. But yes my cure is separate from my dry. Dry takes about 14 days then a cure and then I age but even a smoke after dry is fine, no were near as nice as somethings that's been aged for 6 months or so though.
Johnny Lawrence
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^ Hahahahahahahaha . . .
Once I read that, I knew the rest of the post wasn't worth reading. But on second thought, there's probably so much funny that I'll have to read it just for the sheer entertainment of it.
Johnny Lawrence
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LOL. Yup. I was right. Funny stuff.