Mary's Confidant
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How long do the majority of you scroggers veg? And let's define veg 'from the moment the seeds break ground. I'm just curious if the majority of you are vegging for 2+ months?
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HemiSync
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Just did my first two scrogs but both were using mother plants I had around that needed to be flowered out. So, unfortunately I don’t know how long I will be vegging on my future grows. I have some friends that even do scrogs with autoflowers and that’s what I was considering doing next time.
JayBio420
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I use clones, and it depends. Almost definitely more than 2.
JayBio420
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As a very rough estimate... 6 months per square metre for 1 plant:
1 plant =6 months
3 plants= 3 months
6 plants =1 month
Very rough estimate, with genetics, care and environment adding or subtracting a week or two from those estimates.
KonopCh
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I fill 1m2 tent with two plants, basically two autoflower plants, which start flowering around 30-35 days. In the end of 85 days I harvest about 1.5 GPW with old tech COBs (1212).
Why such a crazy amount of veg, how much do you get in 1m2 then, compared to me?
JayBio420
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I said rough estimates, and I fill a SCROG screen, I’m assuming you are too? You’re scrogging with autoflower? Interesting, sounds challenging to me.
As for my current setup, I’m not going to know what my yields are for a little bit as it’s a newly constructed area on its first run. It’s working out really well so far.
Not sure comparing yields vs quality(my Niche) and LED vs HPS g/w is worth getting into here. More veg is better in Scrog, from my experience. I’m no pro, and won’t claim to be. Unless we are talking beer or plumbing.
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Prince Vegeta
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Prince Vegeta
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Hey guys I was thinking I may have messed up a little and was wondering if it was too late to fix it.
My screen is a 4x4.5 foot screen
2 inches between the screws.
(Should a been 1 will fix that if its not too late.)
Have 3 plants in veg each having been topped 4 or maybe 6 times.
I currently have them lined up straight down the middle of the screen.
As I am tucking under the screen it keeps tangling up.
Getting the branches tangled and its really a mess.
Should I lift my screen.
Place that plants in a triangle pattern under the rectangle?
I feel like i would be a me to better fill out the screen. I've been tucking for a week and a half pr so so I'm worried that I have too much new growth to try to put back under the net.
Also it seems my strings aren't tight enough as I have several spots where the plants are lifting the strings to the point it is letting the tucked come untucked.
I'm pretty sure this is due to the stupid large squares in my net.
My screen is a 4x4.5 foot screen
2 inches between the screws.
(Should a been 1 will fix that if its not too late.)
Have 3 plants in veg each having been topped 4 or maybe 6 times.
I currently have them lined up straight down the middle of the screen.
As I am tucking under the screen it keeps tangling up.
Getting the branches tangled and its really a mess.
Should I lift my screen.
Place that plants in a triangle pattern under the rectangle?
I feel like i would be a me to better fill out the screen. I've been tucking for a week and a half pr so so I'm worried that I have too much new growth to try to put back under the net.
Also it seems my strings aren't tight enough as I have several spots where the plants are lifting the strings to the point it is letting the tucked come untucked.
I'm pretty sure this is due to the stupid large squares in my net.
HemiSync
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If it’s pulling loose from the scrog you can always use plant ties to secure the plant to the lines. This is one of the reasons I like using vinyl coated fencing for my netting. It can’t get pushed around by the plant.
led1k
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How much does yours cost? I just saw 1 for $28 (2'x2') after Googling "vinyl coated fencing".
Prince Vegeta
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It was mainly noob mistakes.
I retied new strings between each set
Reducing the squares drom 2 to 1 inch squares.
I also tightened up the loose strings .
My net is suspended from the ceiling because i got 2 of the wrong T connectors so wasnt able to hook the legs up.
So i tied it to some screws in the ceiling. It not having any weight to it was allowing the 3 plants to lift the entire net up
I noticed slack in the suspension ropes
So I filled 2 milk jugs with water tied them to the frame so it will counter the growing plants pushing the frame.
Hopefully
I think my next frame will be strudier.
This PVC is light and versatile
But it also light and a little more flexible than I'm comfortable with.
After this run i intend on makingna frame out of wood with a screen layered in between 2x4's so it stays put.
This is my first attempt. Im seeing mistakes i could have avoided easily if I'd just tried before lol
Nothing like experience
Well and all the amazing advice and suggestions I get from this community you guys all rock.
Except that one guy .... He's a dick and we all know he is
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I fill my 3’x3’ completly with a 3 month veg every time. Infact they can get over crowded.
For me, top drip recirc in rockwool, 1 plant in a 3x3 = 12 week veg; 2 plants, no more than 2 months. And when I say filled I mean ever square inch in a 3’x3’ tent.
JayBio420
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Nice nice. That sounds about right, 3x3 is only around a square foot smaller than a square metre. I’ve only recently got back into growing, and I’m pretty bad at recording dates so please be gentle on my estimates
. Since mid veg of this run I have been recording EVERYTHING though!I realize the original question now referred to time to flip, not really time
Til the screen was filled to 100%. I would definately update what I said above if I could.
How many plants do you prefer running in a 3x3 Mr. 907guy?
I’m doing 5 right now and think this will be my last time doing more than 3.
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I have found 2 to be the absolute most, I have a 3x3 with 4 in it now, they each could have filled their own 3’x3’ tent, I was unable to train them under the net for more than a few days after flip. They filled the tent, in every way, I can’t even see the light with the tent open they were testers except 1 so just wanted to get them flowered out.Nice nice. That sounds about right, 3x3 is only around a square foot smaller than a square metre. I’ve only recently got back into growing, and I’m pretty bad at recording dates so please be gentle on my estimates
How many plants do you prefer running in a 3x3 Mr. 907guy?
I’m doing 5 right now and think this will be my last time doing more than 3.
The other 3x3 tent has 2 and will be much more controlled. 1 turns out perfect but you have such an extended veg time you better have a run or two of that plant down to know it’s worth it. If you scroll back about 3 pages I have a pic of one of the last single 3x3 scrogs I did or check my IG #cannawizzard for more.
Edit, this is what I aim for
this is what happens when you stick 4 large plants in a 3x3 lol, sometimes it just don’t work out
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Smitty42088
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What do y'all think so far two weeks from being two months old and I feel I got a long way before flower...This is my first scrog by the way and I'm loving watching these girls work and making it seem like I really know what I'm doing lmao
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Thegermling
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Im thinking about doing a scrog in a 4x4 soon.
How many plants should I put in there? Six plants is my legal limit.
I'm thinking of using radicle bags. Nothing like an auto pot or self watering system. I plan on using flora flex caps to water plants through the screen with a funnel. If you have any cheaper way of doing it then im all ears.
To the guys who use ordinary pots, how do you collect the runoff?
When I didnt grow scrog, I put these types of containers in the tents...
And I would put some pot elevators inside them and water until runoff. Then after the water would reach the pots I would vacuum up all the water into a 5 gal bucket and drain it elsewhere.
Anybody have a cheap way to do this part better as well?
Thanks in advance!
How many plants should I put in there? Six plants is my legal limit.
I'm thinking of using radicle bags. Nothing like an auto pot or self watering system. I plan on using flora flex caps to water plants through the screen with a funnel. If you have any cheaper way of doing it then im all ears.
To the guys who use ordinary pots, how do you collect the runoff?
When I didnt grow scrog, I put these types of containers in the tents...
And I would put some pot elevators inside them and water until runoff. Then after the water would reach the pots I would vacuum up all the water into a 5 gal bucket and drain it elsewhere.
Anybody have a cheap way to do this part better as well?
Thanks in advance!
Kid Kannabi5
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I use an elevated DWC set up. With 4'×8' SCROG frame/net. My net is monofilament, w/4" squares. That is plenty for me. 2000 w. of illumination (Hortilux) over the scrog net plus a 600 w at the end (all 8" air cooled in line). Soiless mix pots under the 600w. I shut it off for summer. Did some outdoor. Started indoors under t-5s. Put outside June 1st. July 1st I tricked into flower, using shut off grow room as an already ventilated "dark room" of sorts. So every morning at 7:30 I would cart the no. 15 pots, 1 by 1 outside into a field. Then every night at 7:30pm they got carted 1 by 1 back into the dark room, and the fans were turned back on. Lights out. Every darn morning and evening. 15×no.15 pots every day for 10 weeks got old. Turned out great tho. In WA state your plants will mold b4 they finish if you don't do this method. Glad it's over! Dryed & curing for concentrate production at shop!