Greenpoint seeds!!

smashcity

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I have had my issues with gu, mainly with things like black gold, which is a direct copy of a Top Dawg strain, and a time where I defended him, only to get backlash from him(or somebody pretending to be him), and yes, he absolutely could be more detailed in where things are coming from, including that stardawg male, and it would be nice to get a little more variety in the breeding than just stardawg crosses, but I have no issue whatsoever with a company using dispensary clones to chuck pollen at- a lot of people really don't have easy access to clones, nor the time to go find and seek them- especially if they are in a different country- not to mention all the younger growers who would have extra difficulty buying them from a dispensary. newbies often don't even know where to begin, and are happy to get a dispensary cross in seed form, especially crossed to a proven male, which is something very difficult to find. As for the descriptions, as long as they are an accurate portrayal of the strain, who cares where they came from? I personally just assumed from the get-go that the cuts were from dispensaries- I don't have a problem with that- as long as it is good smoke, whatever... that being said, as soon as somebody is caught in a lie, it is very hard to regain credibility. but I find it hard to believe that gu lies about the strains used in most of his stuff, as a lot of it is and has been fire- not to mention it would be ridiculously easy for him to just use the clones... why wouldn't he just do that? another thing is that GPS seeds are dirt cheap... if gu was charging a crazy amount I would really have a problem, but he doesn't, and instead offers more deals and bonuses than any bank out there, (in a way sticking to the overly corporate dispensaries). is he the best breeder out there? probably not. does he make money off of others' stuff with minimal effort? maybe. but does he deliver seeds that are good as or better than a lot of the competition? yes,(mostly) and at a more affordable price. For pictures, maybe he just never thought it was necessary? I don't see anybody questioning the male, and there aren't any pictures of that... i don't know, i'm not defending him, but i'm also not judging him... btw, i don't know where the mother is from, but Hickok haze is one of my favorite daytime smokes- motivating and energizing, but with a nice foggy head- f that clear headed stuff- potent enough to buy another pack... (a little much of a burnout though...) Sorry, not meaning to ramble, and not looking for drama, just thought i'd throw my 2 cents in... (pure Ghost og from cannaventure sucked- 3 popped, grew about an inch, stayed that way for two weeks, then just fell over and died! kind of funny really...)
My pure ghost is coming along great. I however am very disappointed in rare dankness triangle kush x ghost og. 20180920_000037.jpg 20180920_000037.jpg 20180920_000018.jpg 20180920_000018.jpg 20180920_000121.jpg
 

boybelue

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I have had my issues with gu, mainly with things like black gold, which is a direct copy of a Top Dawg strain, and a time where I defended him, only to get backlash from him(or somebody pretending to be him), and yes, he absolutely could be more detailed in where things are coming from, including that stardawg male, and it would be nice to get a little more variety in the breeding than just stardawg crosses, but I have no issue whatsoever with a company using dispensary clones to chuck pollen at- a lot of people really don't have easy access to clones, nor the time to go find and seek them- especially if they are in a different country- not to mention all the younger growers who would have extra difficulty buying them from a dispensary. newbies often don't even know where to begin, and are happy to get a dispensary cross in seed form, especially crossed to a proven male, which is something very difficult to find. As for the descriptions, as long as they are an accurate portrayal of the strain, who cares where they came from? I personally just assumed from the get-go that the cuts were from dispensaries- I don't have a problem with that- as long as it is good smoke, whatever... that being said, as soon as somebody is caught in a lie, it is very hard to regain credibility. but I find it hard to believe that gu lies about the strains used in most of his stuff, as a lot of it is and has been fire- not to mention it would be ridiculously easy for him to just use the clones... why wouldn't he just do that? another thing is that GPS seeds are dirt cheap... if gu was charging a crazy amount I would really have a problem, but he doesn't, and instead offers more deals and bonuses than any bank out there, (in a way sticking to the overly corporate dispensaries). is he the best breeder out there? probably not. does he make money off of others' stuff with minimal effort? maybe. but does he deliver seeds that are good as or better than a lot of the competition? yes,(mostly) and at a more affordable price. For pictures, maybe he just never thought it was necessary? I don't see anybody questioning the male, and there aren't any pictures of that... i don't know, i'm not defending him, but i'm also not judging him... btw, i don't know where the mother is from, but Hickok haze is one of my favorite daytime smokes- motivating and energizing, but with a nice foggy head- f that clear headed stuff- potent enough to buy another pack... (a little much of a burnout though...) Sorry, not meaning to ramble, and not looking for drama, just thought i'd throw my 2 cents in... (pure Ghost og from cannaventure sucked- 3 popped, grew about an inch, stayed that way for two weeks, then just fell over and died! kind of funny really...)
You made some valid points, if I had access to all the cuts I would have a "proven" room and a "search" room , because without the seed runs we would never find new jewels. But really theres no way i could have cut those down bubble. Even if I let my anger get the best of me i know I would have regretted it. Might have been some fire there. Some peeps look for mutants, say thats where the fire is found. SFnone sux about your ghost , I ran some front HD a few yrs ago, were nice.
 

Heisengrow

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Sorry gu for breaking it down man but I'm seriously frustrated.your prob a good dude but I hope you take note of the complaints and listen to the people who would put your gear on the map.
Your IG vs another breeder ig.sorry man I'm just seeing it the way I see it I have no regrets cutting them plants.maybe in the future I'll come back to greenpoint but at this point I'm done.my garden space is way to valuable to be testing seeds that came from questionable cuts.
Maybe you just getting lazy and forgot what started you in this business but personally all I see is dollar signs.you talking about big companies taking over the industry but your website is like walmart.com.like seriously man take a step back and listen to what some of us are saying.

Your ig
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Vs another well known breeder

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Now if your just in it to win it and get rich without worrying about anything else I'm good with that to.but just be honest and admit half them cuts you use come from wherever you can get your hands on em.
 

rikdabrick

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Finally let me just say this, dispensaries are well known here for selling cuttings of their junk genetics. It's rare a dispensary will let their most fire genetics go, if they did that they'd have no customers , most dispensaries just sell their lowest shelf genetics. It's also a great way to pickup bugs and PM. Also cuts get mixed in together and honestly the source of the cuts is unknown most of the time, you might think you are getting one thing and get something completely different.
Do you read the grow reports/reviews on this thread or elsewhere? Obviously Gu~ is sourcing clones pretty well. Just in the past week someone said their Eagle Scout is straight up bakery goods. Someone else (@Michael Huntherz I think it was) that he'd put his Orange Blossom Special up against the best Tangie cut in the country. @typoerror won a cannabis cup in CO with his cut of Lucky 7's (if I remember correctly). And there's been a ton of other similar reports on almost every other cross Gu~ has sold like straight cherry phenos from Cackleberry, straight banana phenos from Texas Butter, Bazooka Joe Bubblegum phenos in Bodega Bubblegum. If you think he is getting bottom shelf cuts then I believe you're not reading any grow reports in this thread or elsewhere. This thread, IG, the GPS forum, icmag, etc. is literally littered with reports of the kind of plants that people are expecting to find.

And in regards to your previous post with complaints about Gu~'s practices, who complains about a seed maker not doing "breeder selection" on crosses made with clone-only strains? They're clone-only strains, you don't "breeder select" them, they've already been selected.
 

rikdabrick

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Sorry gu for breaking it down man but I'm seriously frustrated.your prob a good dude but I hope you take note of the complaints and listen to the people who would put your gear on the map.
Your IG vs another breeder ig.sorry man I'm just seeing it the way I see it I have no regrets cutting them plants.maybe in the future I'll come back to greenpoint but at this point I'm done.my garden space is way to valuable to be testing seeds that came from questionable cuts.
Maybe you just getting lazy and forgot what started you in this business but personally all I see is dollar signs.you talking about big companies taking over the industry but your website is like walmart.com.like seriously man take a step back and listen to what some of us are saying.

Your ig
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Vs another well known breeder

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Now if your just in it to win it and get rich without worrying about anything else I'm good with that to.but just be honest and admit half them cuts you use come from wherever you can get your hands on em.
I guess I'll post this for you too:

Do you read the grow reports/reviews on this thread or elsewhere? Obviously Gu~ is sourcing clones pretty well. Just in the past week someone said their Eagle Scout is straight up bakery goods. Someone else (@Michael Huntherz I think it was) that he'd put his Orange Blossom Special up against the best Tangie cut in the country. @typoerror won a cannabis cup in CO with his cut of Lucky 7's (if I remember correctly). And there's been a ton of other similar reports on almost every other cross Gu~ has sold like straight cherry phenos from Cackleberry, straight banana phenos from Texas Butter, Bazooka Joe Bubblegum phenos in Bodega Bubblegum. If you think he is getting bottom shelf cuts then I believe you're not reading any grow reports in this thread or elsewhere. This thread, IG, the GPS forum, icmag, etc. is literally littered with reports of the kind of plants that people are expecting to find.

Do you call out Logic like this on THCFarmer? He's way more full of shit than Gu~ is. I hope you're not being a hypocrite.
 

rikdabrick

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MAC, Dosidos, Sundae Driver, Triangle Mints...all were produced within the last few years. Right now people are popping seeds that will produce the next big thing.



Yodaweed has again made a semi-valid point, but has been an absolute nut job at it.

The bigger problem isn’t the lack of credit to the clone source. The problem is that we have nothing to support the genetics claims.

Here’s something to think about. I’ve literally never seen a picture of a plant grown by Gu. I’ve never seen any of the clone-only mothers, and I’ve never seen any of his crosses grown by him. That’s fucking crazy.

How are we supposed to trust his genetics when we can’t even see a picture of a mom in flower? Considering how he straight up lied about the S1’s being tested and knowing the guy who produced them, I don’t think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Right. But if you're popping seeds to find the next best thing you don't complain that you could've just grabbed the clones from a local dispensary.

And if Gu~ was new at this I would get your point better, but you can refer to the last two posts of mine. There's tons of grow reports in this thread, IG, GPS forum and website reviews, icmag showing Gu~'s crosses producing the kind of plants people are expecting to find so the mothers he uses can't be that far off from what he claims they are.
 

Heisengrow

Well-Known Member
Do you read the grow reports/reviews on this thread or elsewhere? Obviously Gu~ is sourcing clones pretty well. Just in the past week someone said their Eagle Scout is straight up bakery goods. Someone else (@Michael Huntherz I think it was) that he'd put his Orange Blossom Special up against the best Tangie cut in the country. @typoerror won a cannabis cup in CO with his cut of Lucky 7's (if I remember correctly). And there's been a ton of other similar reports on almost every other cross Gu~ has sold like straight cherry phenos from Cackleberry, straight banana phenos from Texas Butter, Bazooka Joe Bubblegum phenos in Bodega Bubblegum. If you think he is getting bottom shelf cuts then I believe you're not reading any grow reports in this thread or elsewhere. This thread, IG, the GPS forum, icmag, etc. is literally littered with reports of the kind of plants that people are expecting to find.

And in regards to your previous post with complaints about Gu~'s practices, who complains about a seed maker not doing "breeder selection" on crosses made with clone-only strains? They're clone-only strains, you don't "breeder select" them, they've already been selected.
Dude even a blind squirrel can find a nut.no one said hes putting out garbage but for the amount of time and space there is no excuse for all the high male ratios.his hickock haze was garbage.threw balls and I got 1 female out of 11 seeds.like most of his tired ass stardawg seeds.if the dude puts out 1000s of seeds people are gonna find keepers but them people u speak of pop a shit load of greenpoint seeds.that doesn't make up for the 100s of people getting garbage.
That hickock been discontinued for like year and hes still making them.just another marketing scheme to sell a bs discontinued strain like beach store going out of business every summer.
Those testers sucked.the dude cant give his customers the courtesy to actually grow out his own shit and show us the results or even the pics of these clone only cuts hes using? Theres no excuse.
I double dog dare him to post a pic of this wedding crasher mom.lets see it.
 

Heisengrow

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Right. But if you're popping seeds to find the next best thing you don't complain that you could've just grabbed the clones from a local dispensary.

And if Gu~ was new at this I would get your point better, but you can refer to the last two posts of mine. There's tons of grow reports in this thread, IG, GPS forum and website reviews, icmag showing Gu~'s crosses producing the kind of plants people are expecting to find so the mothers he uses can't be that far off from what he claims they are.
A seed breeder that doesnt gtow out there own gear?you being serious? And where is this IG you speak of cause it looks like the sunday papers advertising section.
You need to get out more and check out some of the other breeders on ig.ho look at seedjunkys IG and come back and tell me that again.they give away 1000s of testers.the dude actually pheno hunts selected cuts to breed with and actually post pictures of the mothers being used in the crosses.
 

rikdabrick

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Dude even a blind squirrel can find a nut.no one said hes putting out garbage but for the amount of time and space there is no excuse for all the high male ratios.his hickock haze was garbage.threw balls and I got 1 female out of 11 seeds.like most of his tired ass stardawg seeds.if the dude puts out 1000s of seeds people are gonna find keepers but them people u speak of pop a shit load of greenpoint seeds.that doesn't make up for the 100s of people getting garbage.
That hickock been discontinued for like year and hes still making them.just another marketing scheme to sell a bs discontinued strain like beach store going out of business every summer.
Those testers sucked.the dude cant give his customers the courtesy to actually grow out his own shit and show us the results or even the pics of these clone only cuts hes using? Theres no excuse.
I double dog dare him to post a pic of this wedding crasher mom.lets see it.
I haven't seen the hundreds of people getting garbage yet. A few plants here and there, but not hundreds. I definitely don't expect every plant to be a winner from seed packs, I just want one nice that I feel like keeping around for awhile which is what I've got so far. And I guess you've got the unlucky packs or something. I've had just about 50/50 on males to females and someone just posted yesterday or the day before that they have a great Hickok Haze so they're definitely not all garbage.

Anyway, I'm off to bed and I truly hope the best for your grows :mrgreen:
 

rikdabrick

Well-Known Member
A seed breeder that doesnt gtow out there own gear?you being serious? And where is this IG you speak of cause it looks like the sunday papers advertising section.
You need to get out more and check out some of the other breeders on ig.ho look at seedjunkys KGB and come back and tell me that again.they give away 1000s of testers.the dude actually pheno hunts selected cuts yo breed with and actually post pictures of the mothers being used in the crosses.
I really am off to bed. Checking out hashtags to GPS strains is helpful to see what others are getting from their GPS packs.
 

somebodyhearted

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I've mated star plants together for years. didnt matter which two stars I chose the results were always awesome.
Can someone tell me how packs of copper chem seeds=awesome parents) could possibly produce bunk plants?(from one pack to another even) how can one pack of a selection be good and the next not? this is like hit or miss purchasing. If I didnt get Raindance early on I would have not bothered with the others, would have missed lucky 7, cackleberry....
What goes wrong during the breeding? is it room conditions? timing? what makes some of these selections come out the same way and others be so awesome? hickock sucked btw i concur, planted six last year and six this year, all sucked the same.
how can that happen, seriously? my guess-rh, temps, pollination timing during selection.
Gu has always replaced bunk packs and the ones that soar are some of the worlds best imo.

peace @Gu
 

ahlkemist

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I don't think i am lucky there's millions of people living in legal states now. I think you should start taking some pride in your work instead of chuck and sell tactics. Your write ups show how lazy you are, you copy and pasted a dispensaries description of their clone and pretended like it was your work when you put it on your grow description.
Sorry but this
Edit: is truth.
Just see thru it all.
Money is your intention
 
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ahlkemist

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This is a serious question,Why do you never post any pics of the mother plants that are seeded,For those of us in the know we all know what Sundae and wedc and other elites look like.This is a serious question.Just seems to me like your selling names.Why does alot of other breeders ON IG post pics of the mother plants used in the
MAC, Dosidos, Sundae Driver, Triangle Mints...all were produced within the last few years. Right now people are popping seeds that will produce the next big thing.



Yodaweed has again made a semi-valid point, but has been an absolute nut job at it.

The bigger problem isn’t the lack of credit to the clone source. The problem is that we have nothing to support the genetics claims.

Here’s something to think about. I’ve literally never seen a picture of a plant grown by Gu. I’ve never seen any of the clone-only mothers, and I’ve never seen any of his crosses grown by him. That’s fucking crazy.

How are we supposed to trust his genetics when we can’t even see a picture of a mom in flower? Considering how he straight up lied about the S1’s being tested and knowing the guy who produced them, I don’t think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
A *ucking men
 
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