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jayblaze710

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No, but only bc I cant risk my harvest like that. I give half of single gram I harvest away to a close family friend. If I wasnt doing that. Then maybe. But also if it herms like that. Then to me that's not elite. Jus my opinion though. And I already have enough to worry about and take care of. Hoping some kindve spray saves my entire crop. I jus dont think I could risk that. No matter how good the cut.
I agree, an elite, by definition, shouldn’t herm. If a clone is still herming, that’s a problem. Plus, I wouldn’t want to be constantly spraying with who knows what.
 

whytewidow

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What if it was an elite hard to get cut, and the stuff had been said to work, would you try it?
And I can also tell you I have an amazing topshelf primo nugs every time. Clementine Cookies. Originally it hermed horribly on me. I took a clone, chopped it n trashed it. Run the clone. Not a single herm. I usually give herms a second chance through clone. If the seed mom herms. Unless its jus growing all shitty.

This is a clone run of it. Not once had a clone of it hermed.
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NoWaistedSpace

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CoB_nUt

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I've had a few strains with hollow stem/stalks. Do you think it relates to anything? I think I read one breeder(not sure who) prefers them in males.
 

whytewidow

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I've had a few strains with hollow stem/stalks. Do you think it relates to anything? I think I read one breeder(not sure who) prefers them in males.
I've heard so many different things. I've heard strains with hollow stalks have higher potency. I've read that it has lower potency. I think it's just strain/pheno dependent. Even the secondary side branches are hollow. My jamaican Pineapple Glue has a hollow stalk but solid side branching. But even the side branching being hollow they are still stiff and very supportive. The one that's 51 days in the side branches are hollow and are pretty hard to pull down. Lots of resistance for being hollow.
 

Werp

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Some outdoor guerilla pics of GPS gear, Out of 11 plants I ended up with three females, lol. From now on no matter what I got going on, they are going to be sexed before I put them out. The last picture I am sure is a deputy, the rest Im not sure, either deputy or california cannons...I'll try to get some better pictures, these ones suck.IMG_20180916_162105900.jpg IMG_20180916_162320465.jpg IMG_20180916_162230450.jpg
 

nc208

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I've been doing this for awhile. Ive nvr heard of anyone spraying something to stop a herm. Although I'm not saying that doesnt exist. But I'd say it's safe to say that if there was something like that available. It would be well known, and used by tons of people.
The product y'all are talking about is Optic Foliar Switch. I have never used it myself but this is what someone supposedly used to stop a herming plant.
 

boybelue

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No, but only bc I cant risk my harvest like that. I give half of single gram I harvest away to a close family friend. If I wasnt doing that. Then maybe. But also if it herms like that. Then to me that's not elite. Jus my opinion though. And I already have enough to worry about and take care of. Hoping some kindve spray saves my entire crop. I jus dont think I could risk that. No matter how good the cut.
I definitely wouldn't put my garden at risk, I would isolate it if possible , but my point is if you find something special , I mean discovery of chem, ogk, gsc special and it had a herm tendency and you could use this product and it would never herm again , wouldn't you try it. Now I'm not talking about putting your harvest at risk, that wasn't my point , never meant for that to be entered into the equation. Nobody really knows that these products haven't been used on the elites in your gardens now. Hell half of them came from accidental hermie pollination in the first place.
 

psychadelibud

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Did it end up being stretchy and tall?
I want to run cackleberry indoors but don't want to deal with a lot of stretch.
Maybe flip em a week after going into 1 gal pots?
Or I could go from solo straight to 3 gallon bag.

Hmm...

Short strains are so much easier to manage.
Did it end up being stretchy and tall?
I want to run cackleberry indoors but don't want to deal with a lot of stretch.
Maybe flip em a week after going into 1 gal pots?
Or I could go from solo straight to 3 gallon bag.

Hmm...

Short strains are so much easier to manage.

Chunky, long time no talk bro.

But yes, she was very stretchy and OG like in structure. Lanky branches laying everywhere.

I have dropped my scrog net and traditional methods of using LST and instead converted to simple tomato cages, and to be honest this was the best choice I ever made. I didn't put the cages on the plants until I transfered them to the flower room, it was kinda aggravating sliding the cages over the plants but once they are on, from there you can use nylon string and tie the plants in whatever direction you need to the cages, I can reduce the height of a plant by half using the cages. They are also very cheap and reusable. If you have height issues like myself, I suggest giving tomato cages a try. I just use the simple circular ones that has 3 legs.

From now on though I will place the cages on the plants while they are small and train them to the cages as they grow instead of waiting to put them on after the plants have matured. Cackleberry is a very fast finishing plant with a very uplifting and "get shit done" type of high. I have another Cackleberry going as well and its a different pheno, much shorter and stockier branching than the first and also has some sweet notes to the nose unlike the one I just harvested that had straight fuel terps.

I would say your okay to give her a run Chunky.


I have 2 Copper Chems in flower right now as well and man one of them smells like sticking your nose to a fresh bottle of pinesol. I have ran tons of strains that smell like pine cleaner in my last 17 years of growing but never have I had one this damn rank... The pinesol smell is so strong I just can't even grasp to believe it... I bet she will be insanely potent!
 
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psychadelibud

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The product y'all are talking about is Optic Foliar Switch. I have never used it myself but this is what someone supposedly used to stop a herming plant.

This stuff works well, but imo it is too costly. I used it before but switched to Monterey florel which isn't watered down, straight concentrate and you can get many many uses out of one bottle for half the price. I use coco-wet to help it stick to the plant and you have to make sure the pH is adjusted correctly. I will have to double check but I am pretty sure you have to bring the pH down to 4.5 before you spray.

Since I have switched to a sealed room and got my minisplit installed I have had zero issues with hermies now that the temps don't swing and fluctuate so often. I am just now hooking up my co2 tonight this is the first time I have ever ran co2 and looking forward to the experience and the results.

But Pm me if you have any questions. I have tons of experience with florel and switch back when I used to have severe temp swings and issues, I used it quiet religiously.
 

boybelue

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This stuff works well, but imo it is too costly. I used it before but switched to Monterey florel which isn't watered down, straight concentrate and you can get many many uses out of one bottle for half the price. I use coco-wet to help it stick to the plant and you have to make sure the pH is adjusted correctly. I will have to double check but I am pretty sure you have to bring the pH down to 4.5 before you spray.

Since I have switched to a sealed room and got my minisplit installed I have had zero issues with hermies now that the temps don't swing and fluctuate so often. I am just now hooking up my co2 tonight this is the first time I have ever ran co2 and looking forward to the experience and the results.

But Pm me if you have any questions. I have tons of experience with florel and switch back when I used to have severe temp swings and issues, I used it quiet religiously.
Thats good to hear, im starting to hear of a lot of people using this product successfully, the other growers that sparked my interest in it swears by it. He now uses it as a preventative measure to assure a hermie free crop and swears it works. I'm not closed minded so I will definitely be checking this stuff out. With all the herm issues people are having now days this would be a valuable tool. I believe there is something to this product. In the old Reverse thread the experiment had 3 large groups of seedlings, one had Reverse, one had a homemade reverse concoction, and one received nothing. The reverse seedlings were all female while the other two were half n half. But the plants hermed later in flower so there is some contradicting reports.
 
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