Do normal people use the term "monkey it up"?

Fogdog

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Because 60% don't live in lala fantasy.

Capitalist ruling class is based on the their interpretation of value, not those who produce the value. It can only survive as a system using a multi-level marketing scheme of value produced must be magnitudes higher than market value.

Value is used to produce more inflated value artificially. Because it's done artificially, those who get the shaft begin to cry foul when the abuse becomes too much.

The capitalists class knows revolution will end their game, so they use divisive measures to keep us fighting amongst ourselves. Because of globalization, easy to identify superficial characteristics are blamed as the cause, such as the notion whites or Christians are to blame, to shift our attention from the real cause, the capitalist is a greedy fuck who doesn't like to share.

The solution is demanding the capitalist scum fairly distribute, rather than the lopsided fiasco we have now.

Even if a virus whiped out all whites, that'd still leave Asian bourgeois scum, which you seem to label me, to deal with.

Your radical agenda has been tried and failed many times with the loss of life and extreme torture from the likes of: Chairman Mao, Che Guevara, and Stalin, up to the tune of over 100 million lives lost, and many more millions who were raped, genitally mutilated, and tortured.

We were in this exact situation before the depression, which was it's cause too, that lead to more balanced distribution between the capitalist scum and the cheated proletariat. And as a result, the wrongs of the past were generally, working towards correction, with the passage of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, that made possible the current well off middle class, millionaires, and even billionaire black person class, proving your white privilege supremacist conspiracy theory, bullshit.

We were doing pretty good too, until the late 70s when the division between CEO and lowest worker became a difference in pay of several thousands in magnitude, prompting Reagan to mock us with how if the rich drink champagne from their penthouse they can piss on us from above, so we cry out in anger.

The most hilarious thing is you use those same champagne socialists pissing on us as proof your bullshit is somehow real. :dunce:

The left leaders may be against political fascism, but they're all for state controlled economic fascism, as Chomsky succinctly states.

Yes, Yes, I get that you are angry that black people can drink from the same water fountain and sit in the same restaurants as you.
 

Puff_Dragon

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Not wishing to throw a monkey wrench into proceedings, but I hadn't heard the phrase 'monkey it up' until now (UK based). Offhand, I would have assumed it was derivative from one of the many older sayings with the word 'monkey' in them. I know (at least from the 'monkey' sayings I came into contact with here ..there are many) they were innocently formed.
Like; this morning it was cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.
Also (from a UK perspective), for at least a couple of hundred years (especially in working class areas, imo) terms with monkey in them were very common. And most/all seem quite innocently based on a number of different cultures mythologies and stories of playful monkeys etc (and obvious idiosyncrasies noticed during interactions that made it into 'pop' culture of those times ..and into the language). And in the UK, more often then not, they seemed mostly pointed at children :)
"Oi kids! ..Stop monkeying around*or; 'about'*" "John, you and your monkey business" "look at those kids copying each other ..monkey see, monkey do" Adults walk into a room and all the kids are running around playing and going crazy "JESUS! it's like a monkey house in here! QUIET!!"
Being honest to ourselves, our 'looks' and our genetics here ..aren't we are all (kind of) a monkey's uncle? ;)
 

Buddha2525

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Yes, Yes, I get that you are angry that black people can drink from the same water fountain and sit in the same restaurants as you.
So you're going against UncleBuck with his racial justice sensing superpower? Because according to him there's no such thing as Jewish supremacist, the only option left since UncleBuck liked your post is Noam Chompsky isn't in fact a jew but a super villian white supremacist who those darned kids from Mystery Inc and Scooby Doo must unmask.

Obviously economic fascism isn't the problem and we must exterminate all the whites and the yellow shrimp dicked rice slurpers so we can live in your magical Friendship is Magic brony utopia!
 

UncleBuck

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So you're going against UncleBuck with his racial justice sensing superpower? Because according to him there's no such thing as Jewish supremacist, the only option left since UncleBuck liked your post is Noam Chompsky isn't in fact a jew but a super villian white supremacist who those darned kids from Mystery Inc and Scooby Doo must unmask.

Obviously economic fascism isn't the problem and we must exterminate all the whites and the yellow shrimp dicked rice slurpers so we can live in your magical Friendship is Magic brony utopia!
called it

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Buddha2525

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No one reads Chomsky? I like what he says and only disagree with him on voting Democrat. They still want capitalism, not real socialism. You can't ever get socialism through government controlling corporations. Not going to happen. All you'll get is feel good oppression, that they still own you. Chomsky calls for freedom of individuals to express themselves which can't happen if government acts as thought police just in case.

You need to take the risk that with freedom comes the possibility a few bad eggs wreck havok.

From those quotes you posted,, he sounds nothing like me. I notice from looking at those threads, his shift key is broken like you do. Maybe you're that guy? He makes arguements like you do but from an Ayn Rand point of view.
 

Buddha2525

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hi kkkynes
I see your shift key is still broken, like him. You could at least enable capitalize the first letter of a sentence. That really so hard?

All I know is he must've hurt you real bad that you remember everything he said, or you're him. Either way, it's still sad.

I was in the spiritual section reading all the threads and comment on the unfactual comments you made there. Then you attacked me without factual statements.
 

Fogdog

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So you're going against UncleBuck with his racial justice sensing superpower? Because according to him there's no such thing as Jewish supremacist, the only option left since UncleBuck liked your post is Noam Chompsky isn't in fact a jew but a super villian white supremacist who those darned kids from Mystery Inc and Scooby Doo must unmask.

Obviously economic fascism isn't the problem and we must exterminate all the whites and the yellow shrimp dicked rice slurpers so we can live in your magical Friendship is Magic brony utopia!
You alt.right dingbats always talk like one of those comedians why don't understand big words
Yes, white privilege in the US exists. It is true that about 60% of white people deny it.
Because 60% don't live in lala fantasy.
You go on to through toss a word salad together in the manner I described. You strung together lots of big words that might have meant something if a thinking person had used them.

It is true that of the 66% of people who are white in this country, 60% of them deny racism exists. That makes your kind at about 40% of the US population or practically all Trump supporters. Virtually no black, brown, Jewish, or asian people deny it exists. They would be the authorities on this, wouldn't you say?
 

Buddha2525

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You alt.right dingbats always talk like one of those comedians why don't understand big words


You go on to through toss a word salad together in the manner I described. You strung together lots of big words that might have meant something if a thinking person had used them.

It is true that of the 66% of people who are white in this country, 60% of them deny racism exists. That makes your kind at about 40% of the US population or practically all Trump supporters. Virtually no black, brown, Jewish, or asian people deny it exists. They would be the authorities on this, wouldn't you say?
Argumentum ad populum.

Argumentum ad verecundiam.

Reductio ad absurdum.

Ad argumentum ad lapidem.

Argumentum ergo decedo.
 
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Fogdog

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Argumentum ad populum.

Argumentum ad verecundiam.

Reductio ad absurdum.
Ah, I see you are reading up on the homework I've assigned you.

Let's see what you've managed to drag up. The closest would be Argumentum ad populum. I'll just pull up a description in english of that term:

The bandwagon fallacy assumes something is true (or right, or good) because other people agree with it. A couple different fallacies can be included under this label, since they are often indistinguishable in practice. The ad populum fallacy (Lat., “to the populous/popularity”) is when something is accepted because it’s popular. The concensus gentium (Lat., “consensus of the people”) is when something is accepted because the relevant authorities or people all agree on it. And the status appeal fallacy is when something is considered true, right, or good because it has the reputation of lending status, making you look “popular,” “important,” or “successful.”

I did not say it was true or right because other people agree with it. What I said was they would be the authorities on this, referring to the experience heaped upon them by the racist shitheads and institutionalized racsim in our justice and economic systems. So, as usual, you get credit for effort but still didn't understand the assignment.

for laughs, I'll just let Jon Stewart explain it to you again. You should watch the whole thing. It's pretty easy listening unless you can't laugh at your alt.right self.


Let me know if you want me to shatter the other logical fallacy arguments you dredged up without really understanding them.
 

Buddha2525

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Ah, I see you are reading up on the homework I've assigned you.

Let's see what you've managed to drag up. The closest would be Argumentum ad populum. I'll just pull up a description in english of that term:

The bandwagon fallacy assumes something is true (or right, or good) because other people agree with it. A couple different fallacies can be included under this label, since they are often indistinguishable in practice. The ad populum fallacy (Lat., “to the populous/popularity”) is when something is accepted because it’s popular. The concensus gentium (Lat., “consensus of the people”) is when something is accepted because the relevant authorities or people all agree on it. And the status appeal fallacy is when something is considered true, right, or good because it has the reputation of lending status, making you look “popular,” “important,” or “successful.”

I did not say it was true or right because other people agree with it. What I said was they would be the authorities on this, referring to the experience heaped upon them by the racist shitheads and institutionalized racsim in our justice and economic systems. So, as usual, you get credit for effort but still didn't understand the assignment.

for laughs, I'll just let Jon Stewart explain it to you again. You should watch the whole thing. It's pretty easy listening unless you can't laugh at your alt.right self.


Let me know if you want me to shatter the other logical fallacy arguments you dredged up without really understanding them.
Ad argumentum ad lapidem.

Argumentum ergo decedo.

No matter how hard you try to kick me because I'm not a part of you doesn't make it true. How can someone ever refute that logic? Because the monent you argue against, then you're no longer part of that group and have no right to question?
 

Fogdog

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Ad argumentum ad lapidem.

Argumentum ergo decedo.

No matter how hard you try to kick me because I'm not a part of you doesn't make it true. How can someone ever refute that logic? Because the monent you argue against, then you're no longer part of that group and have no right to question?
I realize you don't understand logical fallacies because you can't seem to say anything without using them.

It's just that you can't simply disregard the facts when making such a claim;



If the argument stopped there, I'd say, sure, who cares about an opinion poll. What about real life experience:
27% of all police shootings are on black people. Black people are 16% of the population.

There are others. We can point to wage disparity. Black and Hispanic people are paid 30% less than white people while doing the same work. I can also pull up studies showing preference towards whites in even getting an interview.

Ok, kkkynes, instead of a vapid use of big words, show me facts behind your assertion that people of color are mistaken or perhaps lying when virtually all responded that most definitely they experience a great deal of disadvantage due to racism.
 

Buddha2525

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I realize you don't understand logical fallacies because you can't seem to say anything without using them.

It's just that you can't simply disregard the facts when making such a claim;



If the argument stopped there, I'd say, sure, who cares about an opinion poll. What about real life experience:
27% of all police shootings are on black people. Black people are 16% of the population.

There are others. We can point to wage disparity. Black and Hispanic people are paid 30% less than white people while doing the same work. I can also pull up studies showing preference towards whites in even getting an interview.

Ok, kkkynes, instead of a vapid use of big words, show me facts behind your assertion that people of color are mistaken or perhaps lying when virtually all responded that most definitely they experience a great deal of disadvantage due to racism.
How do you explain Larry Elders and Barack Obama who became millionaires, despite growing up in poverty? Are they an alt-right scam which lies? Did they use white privilege to rise up from their shackles? Your "arguments" are indeed absurd. Like Larry Elders said, he once had another black friend who complained, never studied, and partied all the time. Guess what happened? He's still poor and complains to him how everything's so unfair.

Why do you act like such a teenage white girl?

 

Fogdog

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How do you explain Larry Elders and Barack Obama who became millionaires, despite growing up in poverty? Are they an alt-right scam which lies? Did they use white privilege to rise up from their shackles? Your "arguments" are indeed absurd. Like Larry Elders said, he once had another black friend who complained, never studied, and partied all the time. Guess what happened? He's still poor and complains to him how everything's so unfair.

Why do you act like such a teenage white girl?

Based upon your reply, you don't understand how to use statistics. I'm not surprised.

Uh, no. That two black men made good doesn't mean racism doesn't affect their lives, much less everybody else. Do I need to point out you used another logical fallacy?
 
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