First Grow (Indoor) - Sativa

[Montuno]

@yuckymuffins , @raggyb : Here is another way to grow this kind of sativas indoor, by Dubi (A.C.E.):
Dubi about growin OldTimers Haze indoor.

Haze is hard to grow indoors and we only recommend growing her indoors for pure seed or hybrid seed production but not for a sinsemilla indoor grow.

We don't recommed to flower hazes under classic indoor 12/12 regime.
12/12 is critical photoperiod for many tropical sativas. This means they would grow and grow, elongating internodes to make space for future flowers.

An excessive long 12/12 regime when flowering tropical sativa indoors produces excessive elongation in plants and almost no flower production.

I prefer to veg them with longer cycles (classic 18/6) and start to flower them with 11 (light)/13 (darkness) regime. Then switch to 10/14 after 6-8 weeks of flowering.

Haze doesnt need much attentions if she's growing in a rich well prepared soil with space. Problems could start if she has been long time in a small pot, nutrient and ph equilibrium can be lost easily when growing plants in small pots and haze is sensible to it. She can be quite sensible to N overfeedings and general NPK lacks (cause of your leaf fall) so equilibrium could be a little difficult to find.

That's why we recommend to prepare a rich soil and let haze plants absorve naturally nutrients she wants and not abuse with use of liquid fertilizers.

Please, let us know if you are having any other problem.

We are here to help. Have a nice day! dubi

Hola herbalistic

Feeding tropical sativas like haze with excessive Nitrogen at the beginning of flowering would produce huge plants with lot of small branches, hard to light indoors.

N excess in early flowering also makes slower flowering reaction, not desirable when working with this kind of tropical genetics.

I'd recommend flower columnar haze clone with a few strong branches for at least 6-8 weeks under 11 light/ 13 darkness photoperiod, like raco is doing here (even smaller pot can also work too) :



Haze will stretch moderately, maybe losing some color and leaf. After stop stretching and define budsites (aprox 6-8 weeks of flowering), then put haze clone to bigger pot with new soil mixed with good worm casting and guano in polm form. Worm casting provides slowly adequate amount of Nitrogen for rest of flowering and guano provides P+K.

After repot, Haze reacts recovering health and vigour, stretching a little but not too much, she now focus energy to form flowers and not in the structure. Then reduce flowering photoperiod to 10 light/14 darkness. Now Haze clone has lot of new nutrients from organic source, and a healthy soil with correct PH not saturated with salts to finish a correct flowering. Haze usually needs 12-14 weeks to form volimonous flowers and 4-6 weeks more for maturation.

As you said, Haze is an 'untamed' tropical sativa for indoor growing.

 

[raggyb]

@yuckymuffins , @raggyb : Here is another way to grow this kind of sativas indoor, by Dubi (A.C.E.):
Dubi about growin OldTimers Haze indoor.

Thanks Montuno! I agree I think the problem is doubly related to light. I found a light leak that developed in the room too. At this late time I think I'll at least pick the top 1/2 and wait a week to see if the bottom changes.
Reads very useful. It makes it hard to grow a mix indoors, but I'll try a compromise next time which is 12/12 for 8 weeks and then reduce for the sativas' benefit. And I'll do something about my light leak. I think I have a few more ethiop beans to give it another shot.
Are you talking above about a pure Haze? Is there such a thing? I just want to make sure what kind of Haze you are talking about. I see a lot of crosses and I want to try some pure sativas.

 

[Montuno]

@raggyb , Dubi is talking about OldTimers Haze.

 

[raggyb]

@raggyb , Dubi is talking about OldTimers Haze.

thanks hombre. That's a real sativa alright.

 

[Montuno]

Btw, maybe can help you: @Olive Drab Green is growin OldTimers Haze in a little indoor here:

https://www.rollitup.org/t/purple-haze-x-malawi.967861/unread

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Btw, maybe can help you: @Olive Drab Green is growin OldTimers Haze in a little indoor here:

https://www.rollitup.org/t/purple-haze-x-malawi.967861/unread

I’m just that crazy and determined.

 

[Kushash]

Interesting posts by dubi above. ​

Can't find any of dubi's original posts on RIU.
Was hoping to read more of what he had to say about sativa's.

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[Montuno]

Hi @Kushash :
Dubi isent / or have any post in RIU, I think.
Salud!

 

[yuckymuffins]

First signs of flowering. 107 days.

 

[jaysativs]

Thanks guys for the quick reply.

@projectinfo I have placed an order for two dozen seeds from seedsman (Northern Lights, White widow, Grandaddy Purple, Girl Scout Cookies). Hopefully I'll have better luck with these strains. Any recommendations for any other strains I should look at?

As for the sativa Im growing now ill continue to grow it as an experiment. Kinda curious how this thing will grow. I don't mind waiting.

@Aladdin.khalifa My current grow box is 4' tall so Im building a new grow box from an old tool locker (4'L x 3'W x 8'H) and more lights. Ill transfer my sativa to this and use my current box for the indica strains coming in. I want to try my hands on some micro growing and hardcore LST.

So far I'm enjoying everything I'm learning from this grow. So much info to soak in!!

Anyways ill keep you guys posted. Cheers

Bro baka pwede naman akong magpa sabay ng seeds. Wala kase akong credit card eh. Hirap kase maka hanap ng seeds na hindi pure sativa. 4ft lang din kase yung grow box ko eh. Sana matulungan moko bro. Salamat!