Which Mephisto?

[MATTYMATT726]

I don't know what you mean. They list seeds for 14-16 Euro I bought a pack of 7 for £60. Their site doesn't load correctly for me either - a free wix website builder by the looks of it. Maybe I'm missing the bulk discounts

So what did you settle on?

 

[JDMase]

So what did you settle on?

Whoever said "them all"!!

I've gotta get SODK, Walter White, 3 bears and forum stomper first, but I'm settling for sour livers as its £10 more expensive than the rest and attitude let me have them for no extra cost. Great service there. Not even questioned.

Would love to keep the discussion going though.

Who grows in the SOG style Mephisto suggests? I grow in rockwool so I'm wondering whether 5 in a 1 metre x 1metre in the 6" hugo's would be enough - or whether I should get the pots out and fill a few litres out. Hmm!

 

[MATTYMATT726]

Whoever said "them all"!!

I've gotta get SODK, Walter White, 3 bears and forum stomper first, but I'm settling for sour livers as its £10 more expensive than the rest and attitude let me have them for no extra cost. Great service there. Not even questioned.

Would love to keep the discussion going though.

Who grows in the SOG style Mephisto suggests? I grow in rockwool so I'm wondering whether 5 in a 1 metre x 1metre in the 6" hugo's would be enough - or whether I should get the pots out and fill a few litres out. Hmm!

I grow in coco. 3.9 gal pots. Just started 2 in coco 2 liter bottle hempy just to have a medium sized grow while summer temps wind down. 1 thing to note is they grow in soil. A 2-3 gal pot of coco will grow the same plant as a 5 gal in soil. Coco isers can easily get away with 2 gal and even less and get good yeilds. SWisHa85 grew 4 autos in half gal pots and got 4+ oz each in coco. For soil i wouldnt use less than 5 gal. They need it.

 

[MATTYMATT726]

I also said as many as you can. I like the Walter/SODK choices very much. 2 of their most Sativas and 3 Bears and Stomper are more Indica so perfect balance. The SODK has had over 7 oz reported on AFN site and Walter is COVERED in trichs.

 

[Frank Nitty]

I grow in coco. 3.9 gal pots. Just started 2 in coco 2 liter bottle hempy just to have a medium sized grow while summer temps wind down. 1 thing to note is they grow in soil. A 2-3 gal pot of coco will grow the same plant as a 5 gal in soil. Coco isers can easily get away with 2 gal and even less and get good yeilds. SWisHa85 grew 4 autos in half gal pots and got 4+ oz each in coco. For soil i wouldnt use less than 5 gal. They need it.

You mean to get bigger plants use a 5gal pot?

 

[MATTYMATT726]

You mean to get bigger plants use a 5gal pot?

For soil. For coco that would be a waste. Soil can only be watered so much before needing to dry. They need more room. Coco can be watered over and over again as it drys out so it can get more oxygen and nutes in a smaller pot and still grow big. Id never go bigger than 5 gal for an auto in soil though. And again, as low as a 2 liter of coco grew 12 oz on that auto Mazar from Dutch Passion. You also have to count genetics. No matter what soil/coco and amout of food, if its a small plant it will be small.

 

[Frank Nitty]

For soil. For coco that would be a waste. Soil can only be watered so much before needing to dry. They need more room. Coco can be watered over and over again as it drys out so it can get more oxygen and nutes in a smaller pot and still grow big. Id never go bigger than 5 gal for an auto in soil though. And again, as low as a 2 liter of coco grew 12 oz on that auto Mazar from Dutch Passion. You also have to count genetics. No matter what soil/coco and amout of food, if its a small plant it will be small.

Now what are you going to do if those 2ltr bottled plants put out more than your autopots??? Heeheehee!!!XP

 

[MATTYMATT726]

Now what are you going to do if those 2ltr bottled plants put out more than your autopots??? Heeheehee!!!XP

They easily could. Ill be watering 4-5 days for a week or 2 while the roots fill out but in flower 1-2 times a day. 2 liters is half gallon just like SwisHa grew in. Only mine will be tall and his were short and wide. Instead of water coming out the botrom like a normal pot i drilled 1 hole on the side 2" up so when i fill her up water comes out the bottle except that 2" and the roots will feed till its empty. Than i refill. Almost like an autopot actually. Plant feeds when it wants. The fact ill be adding new nutes and water everyday with fresh oxygen means super growth even in a small container. Only downside to hempy is often watering.

 

[GrowerCy]

I grow in coco. 3.9 gal pots. Just started 2 in coco 2 liter bottle hempy just to have a medium sized grow while summer temps wind down. 1 thing to note is they grow in soil. A 2-3 gal pot of coco will grow the same plant as a 5 gal in soil. Coco isers can easily get away with 2 gal and even less and get good yeilds. SWisHa85 grew 4 autos in half gal pots and got 4+ oz each in coco. For soil i wouldnt use less than 5 gal. They need it.

nice to here that.I was growing in soil untill now and i wanted to try coco with Mephisto/Sour stomper plants. how many do you suggets to put in a 3,5 x3,5x8 grow with 500 watt led from the wall ? In 2galon pots

 

[Frank Nitty]

So lets say that I use 1gal pots filled with tupur... Would a 16oz. bottle be good for watering, or would I need a bigger bottle? And how many times a day would I need to water them?

 

[MATTYMATT726]

nice to here that.I was growing in soil untill now and i wanted to try coco with Mephisto/Sour stomper plants. how many do you suggets to put in a 3,5 x3,5x8 grow with 500 watt led from the wall ? In 2galon pots

In 4x4 in 2 gal i seen some say 9 and some 12 as i recently looked for this infor for my 4x4 and possibly doing 7 24 Carat and 5 Sour Cracks that stay small so thats 1 plant to 1-1.5 sq foot. So find your total sq footage and that should help. Rule of thumb is usually 1 plant per sq foot but some plants need more. I myself would more than likley stick to 9 2 gal pots in my 4x4.

 

[Frank Nitty]

nice to here that.I was growing in soil untill now and i wanted to try coco with Mephisto/Sour stomper plants. how many do you suggets to put in a 3,5 x3,5x8 grow with 500 watt led from the wall ? In 2galon pots

Shit, depends on what you think you can handle!!! Me, I have a tendency to overdo things, but if I was in my right mind, I would go with 2 or 3... But I'm infatuated with scrogging right now so I would go with 1 and spread it out... But that's just me and what I would do...

 

[Frank Nitty]

In 4x4 in 2 gal i seen some say 9 and some 12 as i recently looked for this infor for my 4x4 and possibly doing 7 24 Carat and 5 Sour Cracks that stay small so thats 1 plant to 1-1.5 sq foot. So find your total sq footage and that should help. Rule of thumb is usually 1 plant per sq foot but some plants need more. I myself would more than likley stick to 9 2 gal pots in my 4x4.

9 is too many for me!!!

 

[MATTYMATT726]

So lets say that I use 1gal pots filled with tupur... Would a 16oz. bottle be good for watering, or would I need a bigger bottle? And how many times a day would I need to water them?

With the Tupar if you do little waterings, like an 8 oz cup you can water up to 6 times a day every 4 hours. It drys out so fast and it will be getting fresh nutes and tons of oxygen each time. You just want to go lighter feed since itll get fed more than once.

 

[MATTYMATT726]

9 is too many for me!!!

I thought you had 9 already? Those 24 and Sour Cracks all are like 1-2 feet max so perfect likttle SOG plants. Gold Glue too on the smaller side with the 24 in it.

 

[Frank Nitty]

They easily could. Ill be watering 4-5 days for a week or 2 while the roots fill out but in flower 1-2 times a day. 2 liters is half gallon just like SwisHa grew in. Only mine will be tall and his were short and wide. Instead of water coming out the botrom like a normal pot i drilled 1 hole on the side 2" up so when i fill her up water comes out the bottle except that 2" and the roots will feed till its empty. Than i refill. Almost like an autopot actually. Plant feeds when it wants. The fact ill be adding new nutes and water everyday with fresh oxygen means super growth even in a small container. Only downside to hempy is often watering.

I like that idea of putting the hole up like that...

 

[MATTYMATT726]

I like that idea of putting the hole up like that...

Iys Hempy bucket. Give it a google. Easy as shit. I tried the original method with all perlite but didnt like it. I like full coco(Tupar already has some perlite) and let them roll.

 

[MATTYMATT726]

I put them in cocolast Sun and they popd up Fri. Already 2nd set of leaves coming and green after 2 feedings. I fed on Monday and yesterday.

 

[GrowerCy]

In 4x4 in 2 gal i seen some say 9 and some 12 as i recently looked for this infor for my 4x4 and possibly doing 7 24 Carat and 5 Sour Cracks that stay small so thats 1 plant to 1-1.5 sq foot. So find your total sq footage and that should help. Rule of thumb is usually 1 plant per sq foot but some plants need more. I myself would more than likley stick to 9 2 gal pots in my 4x4.

What yield do you think i can expect with 9 of them in a 4x4 with 500 watt for the wall led . Using just lst if needed and some lolipop

 

[MATTYMATT726]

What yield do you think i can expect with 9 of them in a 4x4 with 500 watt for the wall led . Using just lst if needed and some lolipop

Depends on more than 1 thing. Is your light REAL 500 eayts or Chinese Burple that says but is not even half of 500. Soil or coco and what type of nutes? Mephisto are very top tier genes so half the battle right there.