GroErr
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On grass this time, but yeah still skiing - lol
Or was it that he was high on grass and maybe thought he was skiing? Mushrooms can confuse the mind a bit - lol
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Or was it that he was high on grass and maybe thought he was skiing? Mushrooms can confuse the mind a bit - lol
The Dawg
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Nope Not Confused And I Understand Your Hesitancy Where The Only Daring Thing The Uptight Canook Of The North Do Is Watch Maple Syrup Drip From A Tree
grilledcheese101
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Watching bro, can u just run me down on ur specs? I love the grow. I saw ur running cobs cree and citi, how many watts? And what size room are you flowering in?
Pig4buzz
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Stored In refrig or just out in jar? Tks rocking it as always!It definitely can be frustrating, the biggest killer issue is humidity, you can't collect it in a high RH environment or it'll go all sticky on you and basically useless or questionable for viability. I lost a batch around this time last year while collecting it as the RH in the basement was like 60-65% at the time (July/August are usually brutally humid outside here). Now I'm collecting it quickly, then filter/process it upstairs where the RH is usually much better like under 50%. I got lucky when collecting this Panama, RH was high but we got a couple of thunderstorms which dropped the RH to below 50% for a couple of days, right when I was collecting.
For storing, I store it in a well sealed container, inside a mason jar, full of rice. It's lasted as short as 4 months, and more recently as long as 9 months with the Blue Ripper pollen, that's about the longest I've had it viable where I could trust it. It can be very frustrating using old pollen that is no longer viable
GroErr
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Hey thanks for popping in, flowering room is 4x9.5', usable flowering space is ~3.5 x 8' as I leave a little room to get to the back when watering etc.
Running a total of 800w of COBs, key is they're spread across 6 bars so I can spread the light evenly across whatever canopy I'm running. They're all Cree 3590's except one 200w (dimmable, usually running 150w) Citi 1212/90 cri, all are driven by Meanwell drivers @1400ma. That bar is 42" wide so I can cover off the full 4ft. span, it sits at the back of the room where I usually stick the 2x largest plants to utilize the full 4ft across the back of the room. Basically for lighting I try and give them close to ~30w/sq.ft.
As important, the environment is maintained through various controls, mainly using variable controllers on the incoming air and exhaust, but dehumidifier has a role, particularly through summer months where I like to run the temps the same 24/7.
Temps: 78-82F, through summer I keep those temps the same lights on/lights off. Through mid-winter usually drops to 72-75F lights off, 78-82F lights on.
RH: Lights on can go as high as 60%, lights off set to 55% max, dehuey kicks in during lights off only to maintain that range of 53-57%. This is what enables me to keep the temps the same lights-off through summer (dehuey generates enough heat to maintain temps).
Airflow: fans on either side of the room 24/7. Intake and exhaust inline fans on variable controllers run 24/7, I adjust the incoming variable controller mainly depending on the season, exhaust typically runs about 1/2 speed year round. The intake inline fan that is tied into my HVAC plenum, that allows me to pull cool AC air in through summer, warm furnace air through winter to control temps by adjusting the controller speed.
Pig4buzz
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Tks know I ask that before. Tks for your time
GroErr
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No problem, good luck with the next pollen harvest. I know how frustrating it can be, you wait for weeks and nothing #$%! Even worse, if you get either a dud male or pollen goes sterile, you wait out the flowering to find no seeds, now that one sucks, but shit happens as they say, next... lol
grilledcheese101
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That's awesome man thanks for the info I'm building another led bulb array just for cost reasons. Got my eyes on a 600w hps, but until then I'm thinking a 3x3 or a 4x2 haven't decided, and 30 9 watt bulbs (270w) the array I have drawn would allow 30 in a 24x24 inch area, but I'm wondering if I should spread em out more. I've pulled 4 oz of 14 bulbs so I know its possible. And I think I have my soil and feed dialed in as of right now so I wanna shoot for 8-12 with this 270. What do you feed?
grilledcheese101
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Also I got an awesome male this year from a bag any tips for pollinating? Also how much quicker are males to finish in your experiences. Can't find an eta on mature males at all. Got him separated from the girls. Getting maybe 6hrs of direct sun not much more, want to force him to finish faster if possible so i can start pollinating my other bag seeds lol. Still dialing in this new phone sorry for the botched pics.
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GroErr
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Hey no problem, yeah if you build something just watch that spread, typically with COBs they're about a foot apart, bulbs you'd likely want to go closer. Sounds like you know what you're doing if you're getting close to 1gpw with bulbs, nice haul.
Feeding has a lot of variables, your medium being the biggest. I run about 50/50 soil and Pro-mix, it tends to carry them through veg with very little feeding here & there as needed. In flowering they get the last up-pot within a week of flowering so early on its very little like 350 ppm, then once they're into the stretch I increase to 450ppm usually every other watering, and an extra water-only every 2 feeds, kind of like feed-water-feed-water-water and repeat. But again, the amount can depend on your medium, it's better to test slowly and make adjustments as you see results. I still use AN A&B only, it's easy, works, and I use very little so it's not a big cost for me. I've used Jack's Citrus and grown some trees outdoor with it, they all work, it's a matter of dialling it into your medium/environment.
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GroErr
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Nice, making your own seeds is a great way to save some cash and make some potential fire. Only thing with bag seed is you don't know the source so watch for hermies when you start flowering out the offspring.
I have about 8 males going right now, sats, indicas, and hybrids. I've found they flower and are ready to harvest within 20-25 days, 22-23 is pretty typical/average. If you flip your males a day or two before the females (when running them in separate areas) they'll be ready when your females are ready to take pollen. If you're open pollinating you just flip them together and they'll synch up on their own, that is the male will be ready at the same time the females are. Nature knows what's what when it comes to sex, even plants
For pollinating there's a hundred ways, all you need to do is collect some of the pollen, as simple as putting a piece of parchment paper under a branch or two and tapping them (in an enclosed area of course for this method). Then take that pollen, a small artists paint brush (I buy them at the dollar store) and paint the pollen on the buds when they've hit around 3 weeks from the flip. It doesn't take a lot of pollen, and it flies around so be careful that other flowering plants that you don't want seeded are not around.
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grilledcheese101
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Fuck man your full of more info than I thought haha. Thanks bro I love getting insight from some seasoned vets
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GroErr
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Cheers JD, should be snowing pretty good in there by the end of this run
GreenNucleus
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I love your work GroErr. What mesh do you use for your drysift? Do you use a single 100u mesh?
