Roger that on COBs. I just love em. The Veros save my bacon in the summer. Volcano is good, I just don't like bags. I like the EVO because as a former bong guy I can pair a glass piece with it that feels like taking bong rips. I've had a Magic Flight box and hated that dinky ass thing. Had an Herbalizer. Never got used to the bags so I used the whip. Never liked that vape. Then I got the EVO and my search is over. Everyone smokes differently and enjoys different stuff. I wanna try the Sublimator mentioned earlier.