Airwalker16
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Buy a RO filter for your water. It's really a huge advantage to start from ZeRo Ppm.
Question about upping nutrients as plants grow.
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5BY5LEC
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I have to look in to that. I noticed you can get one for around 200.
I read you need Calmag for RO water. Do you include Calmag ppm in total of nutrients? Example if I added 100ppm of calmag would I have that as a base, or would it just be included with whatever the nutrients added up to? Not currently using it, just wondering.
I should add that my water from the tap is very good. It is about 70-80ppm and adds up to 100 once I add Armor Si.
I read you need Calmag for RO water. Do you include Calmag ppm in total of nutrients? Example if I added 100ppm of calmag would I have that as a base, or would it just be included with whatever the nutrients added up to? Not currently using it, just wondering.
I should add that my water from the tap is very good. It is about 70-80ppm and adds up to 100 once I add Armor Si.
Airwalker16
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You add cal mag with ro, yes. Just as the chart shows. It always is mixed first.
Airwalker16
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What's the water temp man? If you're hanging around 75*+ you're most likely going to end up rotting the roots in due time.
5BY5LEC
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Varies from 74-76. I chopped off the brown one this morning. I did not want it in the water. Everything else looks fine on all the other plants.
That root was first in the water. When I planted these seeds three weeks ago I did not use enough Hydroguard right away cause I misread the label.
I am pretty sure it started to get shitty then. I caught it within a few days. Ever since the Hydrogaurd and Orca the water has stayed pretty fresh over the course of a change. No funky smell.
A chiller would be ideal, but I am going to let it ride for now. My first time growing anything at all, anywhere.
I will cough up the 330 for the active aqua if these rot basically. I bought a bottle of Physan-20 in case it needs bombed.
I smelled that root once I had it off the plant. It smelled fresh. Like a vegetable or something. I am not going to sweat it too much unless more turn brown.
That root was first in the water. When I planted these seeds three weeks ago I did not use enough Hydroguard right away cause I misread the label.
I am pretty sure it started to get shitty then. I caught it within a few days. Ever since the Hydrogaurd and Orca the water has stayed pretty fresh over the course of a change. No funky smell.
A chiller would be ideal, but I am going to let it ride for now. My first time growing anything at all, anywhere.
I will cough up the 330 for the active aqua if these rot basically. I bought a bottle of Physan-20 in case it needs bombed.
I smelled that root once I had it off the plant. It smelled fresh. Like a vegetable or something. I am not going to sweat it too much unless more turn brown.
Airwalker16
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IIf you've got the funds for a chiller and are just waiting for rot to justify buying it, I'd really suggest you get it, man. They make your girls sooooooo much happier and the water stays so much cleaner over such a longer period of time. Its just such a great thing to use.
firsttimeARE
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Best way to tell rot is if it's mushy. Second best is smell.
75F isn't THAT bad.
I'd up the nutrients to 250ppm. They look hungry.
75F isn't THAT bad.
I'd up the nutrients to 250ppm. They look hungry.
smokebros
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You'll either need to run a sterile res using h202 or pool shock, or add beneficials such as hydroguard (active ingredient bacillus amyloliquefaciens) that will fight pithium (aka root rot). Unless you can keep temps consistently in the high 60's/very low 70's.
5BY5LEC
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Thanks for the tip. My meter only does ppm so I will do the conversion.
The only reason for not getting a chiller sooner is the conflicting information I have been reading. Lots of people say to get a chiller. You will also find a bunch of people who don't use them.
One reason I would get a chiller though is that fact you dont need to change res as often if you can get your ppms and ph down. That sounds appealing to me.
You said they look hungry? What about them is telling you this? These are the first plants I have looked closely at so if I can learn little things to look out for like that, it would be very helpful to me in the long run.
Thank you guys for your input!
The only reason for not getting a chiller sooner is the conflicting information I have been reading. Lots of people say to get a chiller. You will also find a bunch of people who don't use them.
One reason I would get a chiller though is that fact you dont need to change res as often if you can get your ppms and ph down. That sounds appealing to me.
You said they look hungry? What about them is telling you this? These are the first plants I have looked closely at so if I can learn little things to look out for like that, it would be very helpful to me in the long run.
Thank you guys for your input!
smokebros
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Not sure if you are on IG or youtube at all, but there is a guy that goes by the name LokiGro that I highly suggest you check out. He runs multiple RDWC's and posts a lot of great content on his channels. He actually runs what he calls a "dead" system, and uses pool shock. I know I know, I say the same thing, but I can't argue with his results. Not my grow style of choice, but I give credit where it is deserved.
Another guy named LiquidJade is a RDWC grower on Youtube- Yeah RDWC but he runs beneficial microbes in his system. A contrasting difference from Loki, but equally impressive. He too has great results and is very informative.
Since you're a newer grower you'll eventually need to determine whether or not investing in a chiller will be worth it. If RDWC is your intended grow style for the long term, then it would probably be in your best interest to invest in one early. If you're just dabbling with the system and not sure, then maybe a bottle of Hydroguard to make sure this grow goes well.
I think other posters mentioned your plant(s) look hungry because they are indeed small for 3 weeks in a DWC. I mentioned this in my previous post, but when you do your res change, run your EC higher... aim for 700~ PPM/TDS, and most important keep that PH at 6.0. Check the PH & PPM daily and adjust accordingly. Watch if the PPM's raise or lower, and see what that does to the PH. The goal of RDWC (which DWC doesnt provide) is extra water volume. That water volume affords you to have evaporation, perspiration, and uptake without throwing your nutrient and water levels out of wack every day,
Keep that PH between 5.7 - 6.2, PPM @ 600-800PPM, watch the plants everyday, and adjust as needed.
smokebros
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And when you are doing top off's make sure to re balance your PH & PPM's to the range they need to be in. Don't just add straight water if it means the PPM's will decrease. Vice versa. If you top off and noticed the PPM's were high before you did the top off, then add straight water.
5BY5LEC
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Fucking Aye. I met up with a guy in town who grow RDWC as well. I am picking up a Ecoplus 1/4 hp Chiller in the morning for 175 from him, almost new. My system is about 20 gal. That should help me out a bit. Everyone on here who said I needed a chiller.....good advice. I would have gotten a 1/10 but I think a 1/4 will save me some money in the long run because it will not need to run much to keep my res chilly. I will just match the pump to the flow of the chiller. I will update tomorrow once I have her in.
Should I run Orca and Hydrogaurd with the chiller? Thanks!
Should I run Orca and Hydrogaurd with the chiller? Thanks!
5BY5LEC
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That advice about the PPMs is solid. I noticed today the water level had dropped and the PPM's had risen from 350 to 385. I mixed up a couple gallons of silica, HG, and Orca the PH'd it and put it into the res. Dropped the PPMs down to 350 again. Last res change was sun.
Airwalker16
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Fuck in so jealous of you. I've been trying to hint down a used 1/15,1/13/, or 1/10 HP one for a good deal used
Airwalker16
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No h202, hydro guard of anything of the sort is necessary when you're chilling around 67*f