My leaves are talking but i can’t hear. Help plz.

CK?1

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G'day CK :hug:

Looking great!!!

Good idea cutting the nitrogen. Looks like they need it.

Lovely plants mate.

Tim.

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Hi Tim.
Thanks your help got us there.
Tim are you saying I should hang a bag of mushrooms in the tent and they look like they need CO2
 

CK?1

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Do you guys think I should play around and top that little one in the corner - GSC fastbud
So I’m just taking the CO2 tables and diluting them in a cup of water three time a week just after the lights come back on.
 

Tim1987

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Hi Tim.
Thanks your help got us there.
Tim are you saying I should hang a bag of mushrooms in the tent and they look like they need CO2
Nope :D

Never tried it before personally.

Seems a little pointless to me, if i'm being totally honest.

Edit: no worries about the help either mate. Any time.
 

Tim1987

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So the tables are fine. It these things are local hydro shop is selling. There is also a canister that releases the CO2
Just saying...

It ain't nothing that hasn't already been tried before. How many mushrooms do you think you'll need? How much extra CO2 do you think they will possibly supply?
Why not just up your air intake, and extraction?

Not that it'll do EXACTLY the same thing, but why not buy some mycorrhizae?
 

CK?1

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How big is your space?
Why do you feel the need for CO2?
Tim I guess I’ve just been introduced to the topic and have heard its benificial in flowering. But it doesn’t sound like it is. I have a 1mx1mx1.8m I could easily increase intake and extraction.ill stick with the tablets. How would one tell if you needed all of that anyway. What’s your Rhodes on topping my little GSCwhen another node appears?
 

CK?1

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How big is your space?
Why do you feel the need for CO2?
Tim I guess I’ve just been introduced to the topic and have heard its benificial in flowering. But it doesn’t sound like it is. I have a 1mx1mx1.8m I could easily increase intake and extraction.ill stick with the tablets. How would one tell if you needed all of that anyway. What’s your thoughts on topping my little GSCwhen another node appears?
 

Tim1987

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Tim I guess I’ve just been introduced to the topic and have heard its benificial in flowering. But it doesn’t sound like it is. I have a 1mx1mx1.8m I could easily increase intake and extraction.ill stick with the tablets. How would one tell if you needed all of that anyway. What’s your thoughts on topping my little GSCwhen another node appears?
CK.

Only top a plant during veg.

You're gonna get a lot of opinions on this topic. There are many ways to do it. So I'll explain my way of doing so, and give you an example of one of my current plants. 28 days old. Sprouted on the 1st of July, and is the stretchier one.

I personally like to let mine have a strong, and vigorous early veg.

I wait until the plant is starting to grow showing apical dominance like this-

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But not for a week or two until the plants a bit taller, it's branches are thicker, and stretched some more.

Then I top a couple nodes, below my index finger. Above the node where you can see new healthy, decent sized shoots. Where it's nice and bushy.

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Then I prune off the bottom, outer branches. Because they will grow laterally, because I'm aiming for vertical growth.

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I may top one more time. Which will give me 4 main colas instead of two. It just depends how much I think it'll stretch during bloom.
If I top a second time. Then I'll top the side branches too.

Then I give each branch their own stake for support. Wait another week. Two max. Then put them to flower.

Hope this helps.

:peace:
 

CK?1

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CK.

Only top a plant during veg.

You're gonna get a lot of opinions on this topic. There are many ways to do it. So I'll explain my way of doing so, and give you an example of one of my current plants. 28 days old. Sprouted on the 1st of July, and is the stretchier one.

I personally like to let mine have a strong, and vigorous early veg.

I wait until the plant is starting to grow showing apical dominance like this-

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But not for a week or two until the plants a bit taller, it's branches are thicker, and stretched some more.

Then I top a couple nodes, below my index finger. Above the node where you can see new healthy, decent sized shoots. Where it's nice and bushy.

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Then I prune off the bottom, outer branches. Because they will grow laterally, because I'm aiming for vertical growth.

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I may top one more time. Which will give me 4 main colas instead of two. It just depends how much I think it'll stretch during bloom.
If I top a second time. Then I'll top the side branches too.

Then I give each branch their own stake for support. Wait another week. Two max. Then put them to flower.

Hope this helps.

:peace:
Always helps mate, thanks for the maximum effort. These are autos your topping?
 

Tim1987

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Always helps mate, thanks for the maximum effort. These are autos your topping?
Nope,

Regular seeds.

Dont top an auto. Only prune lateral branches. It definitely seems to be the norm anyway.

I cant speak from experience though. Ive never grown autoflower.
 

CK?1

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Tim! Guys. Freak out I need your help. Hope your online. The tips of my plants are browning, should I flush, or do I just need to chill? I just feed week 4 new feed cycle.

If I do need to flush, do I feed again when they thirsty week 4?

Hope that makes sense, pics incl
 

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Tim1987

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Hi CK.

Just chill.
Drop your ppms a little next feeding.
So you get some equilibrium in the pot.
Check the waste.

Tim,

:peace:
 

CK?1

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Hi guys.
Trust your both well.

So I think I’m going into my flush now, last week before harvest, so the 7th week will be this flush, coco perlite.

Could you guys have a look at these pics and see if I’m about right, if I need to get you better ones I am buying a better scope tomorrow.

Thanks.
Can’t wait to hear from you.
 

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Tim1987

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G'Day CK,

Great effort thus far!

Can you take a pic of the whole plant overall?
From your close ups, it looks like you need a good 2 or 3 weeks longer.
But an overall pic of the plant will really help. A close up of a cola too. Only way i can personally tell.

Looking good. Leave flushing for another couple weeks.
Now's a good time to start tapering down the ppms of your feeds slowly.
 

CK?1

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G'Day CK,

Great effort thus far!

Can you take a pic of the whole plant overall?
From your close ups, it looks like you need a good 2 or 3 weeks longer.
But an overall pic of the plant will really help. A close up of a cola too. Only way i can personally tell.

Looking good. Leave flushing for another couple weeks.
Now's a good time to start tapering down the ppms of your feeds slowly.
Hi Tim.

Thanks for sticking around and for all positive support.

When you say tapering down on my ppm you mean less feed in my water? Guidance once again.

I’m really enjoying coco, feed to waste mate.
My first grow, learnt so so much made good mistake, my buds ain’t to big particularly on the one plant, we learn as they say, and so I have.
 

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Tim1987

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Hi Tim.

Thanks for sticking around and for all positive support.

When you say tapering down on my ppm you mean less feed in my water? Guidance once again.

I’m really enjoying coco, feed to waste mate.
My first grow, learnt so so much made good mistake, my buds ain’t to big particularly on the one plant, we learn as they say, and so I have.
Mate no worries. Most of us come here to help each other, and learn.
Great you're enjoying coco. I find coir a lot of fun too.

Yeah, taper your feeds down between now, and harvest. They don't require nearly as much nutrient as they did just a couple weeks ago. If i'm being honest you could probably cut back your nutrient to half strength today.
Then in another week, halve it again. Then by harvest week your job is done, and you just switch to plain water. No "flushing" either. Same volume of water each feed, just no nutrient. Only difference.

Nice looking smoke dude! Should be looking quite fine by harvest.

Congrats on a good first harvest, and happy smoking.

bongsmilie
 

CK?1

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Mate no worries. Most of us come here to help each other, and learn.
Great you're enjoying coco. I find coir a lot of fun too.

Yeah, taper your feeds down between now, and harvest. They don't require nearly as much nutrient as they did just a couple weeks ago. If i'm being honest you could probably cut back your nutrient to half strength today.
Then in another week, halve it again. Then by harvest week your job is done, and you just switch to plain water. No "flushing" either. Same volume of water each feed, just no nutrient. Only difference.

Nice looking smoke dude! Should be looking quite fine by harvest.

Congrats on a good first harvest, and happy smoking.

bongsmilie
Iris my friend. And all thanks to your guidance. The smoke only puffs cause you helped.

Fingers crossed, last few weeks. I should feed in the nest two days, I’ll start cutting down then. I just finished feeding the girls when your reply came through, It’s 00:30 this side.

Again Tim, thanks!
Wish we were able to grab a season together and chat about farming....lol.

Cheers mate.
 

CK?1

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Hi Tim.

Quick one. I’ve cut down on the feed as you suggested, they way you mention I need to half this week and the half a gain the following week and then in the flowing week of flowering I use only water. It reads as if you suggesting that they still have 3 weeks to go and they are in their 7th already (auto flowers) do you think from the pics it’s still that long? I thought I could start my clean water flush on Friday the 24th until the Friday the 31st and harvest on the 2nd, looking at what little info I’ve given you do you think I’ll still get a nice clean strong smoke with that plan and what you see. From what I can see and hope is that by the 2nd I’ll have just the right amount of milky and amber colors in those pics. They just better. Your soonest reply would be great I can still wait till your thoughts come in before I move to clean water. Oh I went.half on my feed from money already. Friday the 24 is there next feed (with or without feed that is the question??)

Thanks Tim. Not the best pics but I hope they give you the insight I’m looking for.
 

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Tim1987

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Hi Tim.

Quick one. I’ve cut down on the feed as you suggested, they way you mention I need to half this week and the half a gain the following week and then in the flowing week of flowering I use only water. It reads as if you suggesting that they still have 3 weeks to go and they are in their 7th already (auto flowers) do you think from the pics it’s still that long? I thought I could start my clean water flush on Friday the 24th until the Friday the 31st and harvest on the 2nd, looking at what little info I’ve given you do you think I’ll still get a nice clean strong smoke with that plan and what you see. From what I can see and hope is that by the 2nd I’ll have just the right amount of milky and amber colors in those pics. They just better. Your soonest reply would be great I can still wait till your thoughts come in before I move to clean water. Oh I went.half on my feed from money already. Friday the 24 is there next feed (with or without feed that is the question??)

Thanks Tim. Not the best pics but I hope they give you the insight I’m looking for.
Yo CK,

Look its subjective.
Personally i'd leave it a good while longer. 3 weeks sounds about right to me. There are still a lot of clear trichomes in your closeups. Barely any milky or amber ones.
You want a good tasting smoke. Not a harsh or green tasting one. Wait a good couple weeks. Promise you.
It's the hardest part about growing right now. It's a real test of patience, because of how pretty and good the flowers smell. We just want to chop and get it over with. But you'll regret it if you harvest in a week or two.
Right about now is when flavour, aroma, and potency intensifies, and becomes more complex. Phenotypes really express themselves, and show character etc.
Don't rush this process.

Tbh your pics the other day, looks like they've had more than enough nutrient.
But personally i never go to just straight tap water this early. Especially using coco coir. It'll likely do more harm than good.
I'd be tapering my ppms down.
Maybe aim to have your waste reading 400ppm by mid next week? Then 200ppm by the week after? Then come harvest week, instead of nutrient your only feeding water. I don't recommend you "flush", only taper.
I make sure a few days before i harvest my waste is reading the same ppms as my water. Then i let the plant starve itself of water for a few days before i chop. I believe it helps with smell, and a slight increase in resin.

Your plants right now have done their jobs. They've vegged themselves into a large enough plant to support a full bloom. Let them use the rest of their "bodies" to finish. They're ripening right now.
The plants are past using nutrient to grow bigger (vegetate), or pack on flower size. They're naturally metabolizing themselves right now.
Your plants have old age. They have lived they're lives as nature intended. If it were wild your flowers would be full of seed.
The plants job is done. It's an annual plant, and is on its deathbed. Let them die.
The buds right now are sinks. Every bit of green on your plant is feeding your buds.

Taper the nutrient back. 200ppms by harvest week. Wait until they look 95% ready. Then straight water for 3 to 5 days. Dry the pots right out. Harvest, hang, cure, done. Smoke up.

That's how i'd personally do it.
Just go by how you feel though...I find cannabis ripeness, and harvest time is more about the connection between the plants and ourselves.
Go with your instinct, and what the plants are telling you.
Only take on board what others like myself tell you. Every grower has their own way, i guarantee you.

Bare in mind though, breeders guides to finishing times are usually quite exaggerated. 7 weeks is an extremely fast strain.
I'd personally add 2 weeks to this. Probably 3.
I bet the breeder specifies 7-9 weeks? Well id be aiming for 9. 10th week being harvest week.

Good luck with harvest CK.
The wait is almost over.

Peace, and happy smoking.

:peace:
 
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