I need to kill white flies that just wont die?

AZPsyclops

AZPsyclops

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It's been awhile so Hello to everyone.
I looked up white flies and couldn't find anything helpful so I posted.
I have been in the battle of my experience with these little bastards. I need help but here is what I tried.
Day 1, Anamax soaked em half strength.
Day 2, Docktor doom foger
Day 3, Anamax again.
Day 4, let plants recover.
Day 5, Kicked Anamax to full strength and used a doctor doom; repeated process for next 2 and a half weeks.
Result white flies and unhealthy plants. Note: white flies are still alive and flying immediately after using doctor doom when airing out the room.
Growing conditions are as follows:
I grow in air but its more sprayoponics. I use a sprayer head and constant flow with no intermittent spray and not mist. This is an established and very productive setup. The water is pumped from res. to roots and immediately drains back to res.
Nutrients: GH Flora and Micro
Atami bloom stimulator is added in flower.
 
Dmannn

Dmannn

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You could try increasing the ambient temps and using DE. Also try to lower the humidity in the room for a day or two.
 
AZPsyclops

AZPsyclops

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I assume you ment to say lower the temp as white flies do better in the heat. The house is AC and humidity levels are maxed at 55% during night respiration. Day time humidity is around 35% average and am trying to bring both down.
I have a more aggressive plan but want uninfluenced opinions.
What does DE mean?
 
AZPsyclops

AZPsyclops

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My plants did an interesting thing to combat the flies.
They coated their leaves in a sugar water. It was very affective the larvae couldn't leave and the adults got stuck when they landed.
The plants had grown high to the lights and I slacked and did not notice what was happening. The result: Humidity shot to 80% for 7 days. The entire beautiful tops of my plant had molded and had to be tossed.
 
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SSHZ

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IMO there are two ways to go...........Flying Skull's "Nuke Em" or PureCrop1 available at Monster Gardens. Spray either one when the lights oare out and the plants (and room) have cooled down a bit. It will only be as affective as how well you spray- but maybe 3-4 days of a night time spraying should eliminate them or reduce them down to a few straglers. Then spray weekly...........
 
AZPsyclops

AZPsyclops

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Thank you,
I was directed to, Zero Tolerance and Grandivo by TheGrowersHouse but I didn't think that would do it.
I have the ability to take them out of their buckets, hold them upside down and spray they in a shower as I did with the Anamax before the last group was moved into flower. I just have a naked root ball that is kept well away of any pesticides.
Thanks gona look them up now at monster gardens.
More input is more than welcome these little suckers almost got me. If I cant kill them they will put me down.
 
AZPsyclops

AZPsyclops

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I have fought these guys along with spider mites and thrips before, but it never took more than a week or two to kill them.
 
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SSHZ

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I recommended both as I have experience with both and won't damage plants when applied properly.......... not sure of the 2 you mentioned,
 
Cx2H

Cx2H

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AZPsyclops said:
It's been awhile so Hello to everyone.
I looked up white flies and couldn't find anything helpful so I posted.
I have been in the battle of my experience with these little bastards. I need help but here is what I tried.
Day 1, Anamax soaked em half strength.
Day 2, Docktor doom foger
Day 3, Anamax again.
Day 4, let plants recover.
Day 5, Kicked Anamax to full strength and used a doctor doom; repeated process for next 2 and a half weeks.
Result white flies and unhealthy plants. Note: white flies are still alive and flying immediately after using doctor doom when airing out the room.
Growing conditions are as follows:
I grow in air but its more sprayoponics. I use a sprayer head and constant flow with no intermittent spray and not mist. This is an established and very productive setup. The water is pumped from res. to roots and immediately drains back to res.
Nutrients: GH Flora and Micro
Atami bloom stimulator is added in flower.
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Insecticidal soap or horticulture oil? Works great.
 
Cx2H

Cx2H

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SSHZ said:
In veg, but not in flowering.
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Right. In flower choices are few.

Still better than dumping chemical insecticide and you see sheet dying immediately. Pure crop is overpriced and the rep has attitudinal problems..

Insect soap is potassium fatty acids. After 7 days it breaks down.

The other is pure mineral oil.
 
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DemonTrich

DemonTrich

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Promis
Wayer drench at 5ml/g for established plants, 1ml/g for clones. Use for 3 consecutive waterings.

No more bugs
 
AZPsyclops

AZPsyclops

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Thank you all. I'm going to try, "Nuke Em", along with pyrethrum foggers. I will follow up a week after treatment starts to let anyone that might be following know how treatment goes.
 
PhenoMenal

PhenoMenal

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yes i agree those yellow sticky traps are very effective, just get some Tanglefoot or similar glue and paint it on your choice of yellow - i use fluoro yellow A4 sheets of paper folded in half
 
AZPsyclops

AZPsyclops

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I have the yellow sticky traps everywhere Yes they work well as a control.
I got the "Flying Skulls, Nuke Em".
The bottle says to treat three times, two to three days apart with normal strength; 4oz to a gallon.
I screwed up and only mixed it at a quarter strength; 1oz a gallon.
80% fly kill on day one. I waited one day and reapplied, still at quarter strength.
I waited one more day, realized my mistake and remixed for final application today; 4oz to a gallon and 2ml wetting agent.
I saw what might have been a fly in flower after I vigorously shook the plants before application but not sure; however the Veg. room seemed to be free of all insects prior to final spray today.
I haven't used any foggers yet, messed up the initial mix and yet this stuff seems to have done it anyway. Nuke Em is a contact killer so I'm only getting what's on and immediately in the air around the plants.
I veg under fluorescent and flower under Ceramic Metal Halide. I did not have to turn my lights off for application and received ZERO burn. This stuff looks like the real deal soo far.
I will give a final update, but it looks like it worked as advertised. Kills them clean and I have notice no health effects to plants.
Thank you SSHZ and the rest of you all, it looks like you saved my ass.
 
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EverythingsHazy

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Not sure about the safety/toxicity of Spinosad for edible/smokeable plants, but it destroys whitefly, fungus gnats, and thrips. Make sure you hit the entire plant (under the leaves included), pot, and soil surface. Then wipe down your grow area with IPA, and you should be good to go.
 
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