Advice on nutrients,,,

Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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there's a lot of options. the current fotm is megacrop, a lot of people like it. i've used jack's dry salts for a while, and like them a lot.
w/e you pick, try to keep it simple, either a dry salt or a "system" that's three bottles or less. the 7 bottle systems are just overly complicated ways to sell you more water
 
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lespaulgreen

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
there's a lot of options. the current fotm is megacrop, a lot of people like it. i've used jack's dry salts for a while, and like them a lot.
w/e you pick, try to keep it simple, either a dry salt or a "system" that's three bottles or less. the 7 bottle systems are just overly complicated ways to sell you more water
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keeping it simple is my style..suggest Canadian suppliers?
3 bottles or less is good...haha
lespaulgreen said:
I have two Exodus Cheese plants that are approx 3 months old (outdoors 1 month)...
Since this is my first outdoor grow I was wondering if I could get some advice on best-suited nutrients to buy and some guidance on how to apply it!
The plant in the pot is a clone (approx 2 months)
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Headed out to my local hardware store any recommendations?
my understanding is at this stage 3 months flowering I should look for products high in the P&K, Correct??
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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not too high, and not too P, something like 5-10-15 would be good, i use 12-15-30 tomato feed from Jack's. P is good about two weeks from the end, when you're pretty sure they're almost done. i only hit them with high P twice, it's a ripener, and will help harden things up at the end
 
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lespaulgreen

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I picked up some Schultz Bloom 5-30-5..hope this is good enough. I also came across a PH Water Tester. turns out my water PH is 7.6
Any suggestion to get my PH lower to an optimal range?
 
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lespaulgreen

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It appears my plants are photo's (exodus cheese) so they have another 3 months to grow, correct?? Sometime in mid to late September for harvest They are approx 3 months as of this week.
 
socaljoe

socaljoe

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lespaulgreen said:
I picked up some Schultz Bloom 5-30-5..hope this is good enough. I also came across a PH Water Tester. turns out my water PH is 7.6
Any suggestion to get my PH lower to an optimal range?
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Do you have pH related issues? If you're growing in quality soil, you shouldn't need to pH adjust your water. A good potting soil will buffer the pH to what is needed.

Don't fix what ain't broke. :bigjoint:
 
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lespaulgreen

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socaljoe said:
Do you have pH related issues? If you're growing in quality soil, you shouldn't need to pH adjust your water. A good potting soil will buffer the pH to what is needed.

Don't fix what ain't broke. :bigjoint:
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I don't think I have any issues with water PH?
I was was under the impression ideal cannabis conditions were lower than 7.6 ph although your point is well taken!
the soil appears good, I mixed in perlite for extra drainage, although my ground is sandy...all looks good just trying to maximize conditions/yield...
 
socaljoe

socaljoe

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lespaulgreen said:
I don't think I have any issues with water PH?
I was was under the impression ideal cannabis conditions were lower than 7.6 ph although your point is well taken!
the soil appears good, I mixed in perlite for extra drainage, although my ground is sandy...all looks good just trying to maximize conditions/yield...
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As long as your plants are healthy, meaning green, perky leaves with no/minimal discoloration or spotting you should carry on as if everything is fine. Your plants will tell you if something is wrong, you just have to pay attention and spot those problems if/when they arise. I can tell you this much from experience, it is possible to love your plants to death.

Regarding your fertilizer. I'd be a bit concerned with the low level of nitrogen. Nitrogen is super important to a plant in the vegetative state, without a sufficient amount you'll see your leaves go yellow and dead quickly, not to mention when flowering begins and your plants start growing 1-2 inches per day as they stretch. As far as amounts and frequency, start at 1/4-1/2 dose and feed once a week. If your plants need more, they'll tell you, and you can adjust from there. Remember, often times less is more.
 
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lespaulgreen

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socaljoe said:
As long as your plants are healthy, meaning green, perky leaves with no/minimal discoloration or spotting you should carry on as if everything is fine. Your plants will tell you if something is wrong, you just have to pay attention and spot those problems if/when they arise. I can tell you this much from experience, it is possible to love your plants to death.

Regarding your fertilizer. I'd be a bit concerned with the low level of nitrogen. Nitrogen is super important to a plant in the vegetative state, without a sufficient amount you'll see your leaves go yellow and dead quickly, not to mention when flowering begins and your plants start growing 1-2 inches per day as they stretch. As far as amounts and frequency, start at 1/4-1/2 dose and feed once a week. If your plants need more, they'll tell you, and you can adjust from there. Remember, often times less is more.
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Socaljoe, thank you for the fertilizer guidance, this helps me tremendously!!!!!
 
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lespaulgreen

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So, to recap my plan, I will use the fertilizer once per week.
I also was planning on using a 1/4-1/2 mixture initially with one gallon per plant, is this within an acceptable range?

mix 1/4 the dosage in 1-gallon container per plant.
5ml per 1 gallon of fertilizer (Schultz bloom builder 20 ml per 7 litres as per instructions)
 
socaljoe

socaljoe

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lespaulgreen said:
the concern with "P" ratio as in too high, how to mitigate??
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Honestly, that fertilizer you bought just isn't what you want. I'll post a couple links to something that would be more suitable.

Jack's Triple 20:
https://www.amazon.com/JR-Peters-Classic-20-20-20-Fertilizer/dp/B005LKNCZY/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1531625637&sr=8-12&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=jacks+fertilizer

Jack's Bloom Booster:
https://www.amazon.com/Urea-Free-Bloom-Booster-10-30-20/dp/B00AG4UN98/ref=pd_aw_sim_86_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=WW5TMMRSMYZH60QD7GES

My recommendation is Greenleaf Nutrients Megacrop. A one part solution that's suitable for veg and flower. If you follow this link, you'll see in red that there is a coupon code to get a 230g package free to try. I'd highly recommend going this route. I'm using Megacrop and it works great.

https://greenleafnutrients.com/product/mega-crop/?v=7516fd43adaa
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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lespaulgreen said:
the concern with "P" ratio as in too high, how to mitigate??
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use something different....
veg npk ratio can run either balanced 1-1-1 or something like 5-2-4....either will work ok.
flower npk ratio is different. it should stay the same as veg ratio till the plants stop stretching. then you want to go to something in the area of 1-1-2 or 1-2-3. the last two weeks or so before you harvest, if you want to use a pk boost, something like 0-1-2 is good.
these are all ratios, so something like 0-1-2 could be 0-10-20.....5-2-4 could be 10-4-8
 
DCcan

DCcan

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socaljoe said:
My recommendation is Greenleaf Nutrients Megacrop. A one part solution that's suitable for veg and flower. If you follow this link, you'll see in red that there is a coupon code to get a 230g package free to try. I'd highly recommend going this route. I'm using Megacrop and it works great.
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Yea, I got the 230g sampler pack, and it worked great on tomato and weed. The PH was super stable, even when the solution sat overnight, it still had the same PH in the morning.

Just ordered a 10 lb bag of MegaCrop, and looking at all the shelf space it is going to free up on the rack. All the boxes of soil additives are being phased out , going back to ProMix/ growstones, some lime and EWC.
Just keeping the molasses, Kelp/Yarrow/Chamomile/Neem slushies, Langbeinite and liquid bone meal for supplements.
 
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