Ralph Nader interviewed by Chris Hedges

Rob Roy

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After all the words, and bullshit what you are really saying is " that no such place exist in the world we live in, but it would be super duper swell if we did lived in a fantasy world of such. "
Do you think unicorns and leprechaun will be present in such an environment. I would love to ride a unicorn and I would become friends with the leprechaun in hopes he give me half of that pot of gold. Oh and when it rains, it rains jelly beans that fall softly from the sky.

No, what I'm really saying is, that "place" is less of a place and more of a human behavior that rational people engage in. Might be why it's a foreign concept to you. Ahem.

For instance, I cited that most "countries" are just political figments and only exist because of obedient people like you. So a "voluntaryist country" is a bit of an oxymoron, since voluntarism is based in consent and a country (with assigned leaders / rulers ) is not.

You do, however in engage in voluntaryist activity from time to time, since I assume sometimes you make consensual trades with other people on a mutual and peaceful basis.

I think unicorns and leprechauns would probably be regulated by Ralph Nader, since he has a giant safety Nazi boner.
 
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Rob Roy

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I imagine a vision of Homer Simpson heaven, where donuts rain from the sky at breakfast every morning.

To ridicule something you don't understand is revealing, but I think there might still be hope for you.


Before you stuff your face with donuts, Homer, how about answering a simple question?

If you don't have the right to make another neutral person do something, where does government get the right from ? I don't think you can answer my question without using doublespeak. Can you?
 

londonfog

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No, what I'm really saying is, that "place" is less of a place and more of a human behavior that rational people engage in. Might be why it's a foreign concept to you. Ahem.

For instance, I cited that most "countries" are just political figments and only exist because of obedient people like you. So a "voluntaryist country" is a bit of an oxymoron, since voluntarism is based in consent and a country (with assigned leaders / rulers ) is not.

You do, however in engage in voluntaryist activity from time to time, since I assume sometimes you make consensual trades with other people on a mutual and peaceful basis.

I think unicorns and leprechauns would probably be regulated by Ralph Nader, since he has a giant safety Nazi boner.
I'm fucking stunned. I had no idea that you have discovered a way to control human behavior in others. You must have discovery this to think we could achieve such a fantasy utopia. When will you share your discovery with the world . We can name this " Can We All Get Along Phenomenon" or "Scent Smelling Bovine Feces Theory"
 

ttystikk

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To ridicule something you don't understand is revealing, but I think there might still be hope for you.


Before you stuff your face with donuts, Homer, how about answering a simple question?

If you don't have the right to make another neutral person do something, where does government get the right from ? I don't think you can answer my question without using doublespeak. Can you?
If you can't discuss it, explain it or point to examples of it, it isn't anyone else's failing.
 

ttystikk

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I'm fucking stunned. I had no idea that you have discovered a way to control human behavior in others. You must have discovery this to think we could achieve such a fantasy utopia. When will you share your discovery with the world . We can name this " Can We All Get Along Phenomenon" or "Scent Smelling Bovine Feces Theory"
Lol definitely the latter!
 

Rob Roy

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If you can't discuss it, explain it or point to examples of it, it isn't anyone else's failing.
Which is exactly why you should stop believing that bad things people do as individuals can somehow become good, when they are done by a group with magical legal sanctification.

Didn't think you could justify the violence you ignore.
 

Rob Roy

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I'm fucking stunned. I had no idea that you have discovered a way to control human behavior in others. You must have discovery this to think we could achieve such a fantasy utopia. When will you share your discovery with the world . We can name this " Can We All Get Along Phenomenon" or "Scent Smelling Bovine Feces Theory"

Yes, you are fucking stunned. When you awake, you won't remember any of this.
 

londonfog

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Why do you attempt to use black people meme when you approach me with debates. These same people you attempt to use in your message, you would not fight for to have equal footing in a public restaurant.
Would you fight and protest a store that refused to serve Douglas. Would you march with King to stop the forcing of blacks to the back of the bus. No you would not, so stop using them in an attempt to boaster your argument
 
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Rob Roy

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Why do you attempt to use black people meme when you approach me with debates. These same people you attempt to use in your message, you would not fight for to have equal footing in a public restaurant.
Would you fight and protest a store that refused to serve Douglas. Would you march with King to stop the forcing of blacks to the back of the bus. No you would not, so stop using them in an attempt to boaster your argument

Actually Frederick Douglass, was mixed race.

I'd help him be free, but I wouldn't help him force other people to serve him, just like he should never have been forced to serve others.

Martin Luther King is dead, the government killed him.

Boaster? Okay. I once dunked a basketball on an eleven foot rim. Alright, maybe it was 10' 9", but eleven sounds better.

Also, we're not debating. A debate would be where we buttress our own arguments and deflate the other guys arguments by pointing out the inconsistencies of them. Your points center on "forcing other people to serve people, so that people will be free" , which is a self evident contradictory fail....and why I'm winning.

A public restaurant eh? So, you mean that "everybody" owns it ?
 
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londonfog

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Actually Frederick Douglass, was mixed race.

I'd help him be free, but I wouldn't help him force other people to serve him, just like he should never have been forced to serve others.

Martin Luther King is dead, the government killed him.

Boaster? Okay. I once dunked a basketball on an eleven foot rim. Alright, maybe it was 10' 9", but eleven sounds better.

Also, we're not debating. A debate would be where we buttress our own arguments and deflate the other guys arguments by pointing out the inconsistencies of them. Your points center on "forcing other people to serve people, so that people will be free" , which is a self evident contradictory fail....and why I'm winning.

A public restaurant eh? So, you mean that "everybody" owns it ?
Wow so serving a paying customer is the same as slavery to you.

A lot of people helped kill MLK but what does that have to do with you helping him in the fight to not sit in the back of the bus.
Please have one of your children explain to you what open to the public means
 
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