Trial Runs For Fascism Are In Full Flow

ttystikk

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https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-trial-runs-for-fascism-are-in-full-flow-1.3543375?mode=amp

Fintan O’Toole: Trial runs for fascism are in full flow
Babies in cages were no ‘mistake’ by Trump but test-marketing for barbarism

To grasp what is going on in the world right now, we need to reflect on two things. One is that we are in a phase of trial runs. The other is that what is being trialled is fascism – a word that should be used carefully but not shirked when it is so clearly on the horizon. Forget “post-fascist” – what we are living with is pre-fascism.

It is easy to dismiss Donald Trumpas an ignoramus, not least because he is. But he has an acute understanding of one thing: test marketing. He created himself in the gossip pages of the New York tabloids, where celebrity is manufactured by planting outrageous stories that you can later confirm or deny depending on how they go down. And he recreated himself in reality TV where the storylines can be adjusted according to the ratings. Put something out there, pull it back, adjust, go again.

Fascism doesn’t arise suddenly in an existing democracy. It is not easy to get people to give up their ideas of freedom and civility. You have to do trial runs that, if they are done well, serve two purposes. They get people used to something they may initially recoil from; and they allow you to refine and calibrate. This is what is happening now and we would be fools not to see it.

One of the basic tools of fascism is the rigging of elections – we’ve seen that trialled in the election of Trump, in the Brexit referendum and (less successfully) in the French presidential elections. Another is the generation of tribal identities, the division of society into mutually exclusive polarities. Fascism does not need a majority – it typically comes to power with about 40 per cent support and then uses control and intimidation to consolidate that power. So it doesn’t matter if most people hate you, as long as your 40 per cent is fanatically committed. That’s been tested out too. And fascism of course needs a propaganda machine so effective that it creates for its followers a universe of “alternative facts” impervious to unwanted realities. Again, the testing for this is very far advanced.

Moral boundaries

But when you’ve done all this, there is a crucial next step, usually the trickiest of all. You have to undermine moral boundaries, inure people to the acceptance of acts of extreme cruelty. Like hounds, people have to be blooded. They have to be given the taste for savagery. Fascism does this by building up the sense of threat from a despised out-group. This allows the members of that group to be dehumanised. Once that has been achieved, you can gradually up the ante, working through the stages from breaking windows to extermination.

It is this next step that is being test-marketed now. It is being done in Italy by the far-right leader and minister for the interior Matteo Salvini. How would it go down if we turn away boatloads of refugees? Let’s do a screening of the rough-cut of registering all the Roma and see what buttons the audience will press. And it has been trialled by Trump: let’s see how my fans feel about crying babies in cages. I wonder how it will go down with Rupert Murdoch.

To see, as most commentary has done, the deliberate traumatisation of migrant children as a “mistake” by Trump is culpable naivety. It is a trial run – and the trial has been a huge success. Trump’s claim last week that immigrants “infest” the US is a test-marketing of whether his fans are ready for the next step-up in language, which is of course “vermin”. And the generation of images of toddlers being dragged from their parents is a test of whether those words can be turned into sounds and pictures. It was always an experiment – it ended (but only in part) because the results were in.

‘Devious’ infants

And the results are quite satisfactory. There is good news on two fronts. First, Rupert Murdoch is happy with it – his Fox News mouthpieces outdid themselves in barbaric crassness: making animal noises at the mention of a Down syndrome child, describing crying children as actors. They went the whole swinish hog: even the brown babies are liars. Those sobs of anguish are typical of the manipulative behaviour of the strangers coming to infest us – should we not fear a race whose very infants can be so devious? Second, the hardcore fans loved it: 58 per cent of Republicans are in favour of this brutality. Trump’s overall approval ratings are up to 42.5 per cent.

This is greatly encouraging for the pre-fascist agenda. The blooding process has begun within the democratic world. The muscles that the propaganda machines need for defending the indefensible are being toned up. Millions and millions of Europeans and Americans are learning to think the unthinkable. So what if those black people drown in the sea? So what if those brown toddlers are scarred for life? They have already, in their minds, crossed the boundaries of morality. They are, like Macbeth, “yet but young in deed”. But the tests will be refined, the results analysed, the methods perfected, the messages sharpened. And then the deeds can follow.
 

ttystikk

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If it walks like fascism, talks like fascism, smells like fascism and brutally victimizes the innocent like fascism, then, yanno, maybe it's fucking fascism.

But let's make sure and take Rupert Murdoch's word for it. If he says it isn't, then we can all go home satisfied the only threats are baby crisis actors, right?
 

schuylaar

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someone from the left needs to do something; they know what it is.

please tell me we have one mercenary that's a Prog..

14-month old baby held 85 days returned with lice, never bathed..the Normalization Experiments continue but hewhoshallnotbenamed is curtaining his rally venues in a high school gym..keep your eye on the ball..he has 42%and rising but the hs gym? he has 42.5%:lol:

 
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schuylaar

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If it walks like fascism, talks like fascism, smells like fascism and brutally victimizes the innocent like fascism, then, yanno, maybe it's fucking fascism.

But let's make sure and take Rupert Murdoch's word for it. If he says it isn't, then we can all go home satisfied the only threats are baby crisis actors, right?
spot on article btw:clap:
 
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Unclebaldrick

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someone from the left needs to do something; they know what it is.

please tell me we have one mercenary that's a Prog..

14-month old baby held 85 days returned with lice, never bathed..the Normalization Experiments continue but hewhoshallnotbenamed is curtaining his rally venues in a high school gym..keep your eye on the ball..he has 42%and rising but the hs gym? he has 42.5%:lol:

Remember when you said Trump's approval rating would be down to single digits?
 

Unclebaldrick

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And, by the way, my state was formerly known as a swing state. Trump took it handily last election. Now there are many ways to look at this. I would say that there has been a fundamental shift in the political outlook of Americans based on any number of factors. We could debate these all night but the net sum effect is that the electorate has gotten more "conservative". I suspect that Tty would attribute this to a failure of the Democratic party to distinguish itself as sufficiently "Progressive" to mobilize the people. Yet the global political situation does not back this up in the slightest. For the most part, Western polities worldwide have shown the same trend as they have often done throughout history. The single largest reason has been concerns over immigration - regardless of whether those fears are grounded in fact. I believe I saw a recent poll showing that 56% of all American voters listed immigration as their top political issue. How, in this situation, anybody could think Medicare for all (etc.) is the solution to beating Trump is beyond my comprehension. This is the worst strategy I can imagine.

@ttystikk , for you to not believe that 40% of Americans support Trump shows that you have surrounded yourself with a bubble of people that do not represent the voters in the least. An echo chamber if you will - one that will bring us another six years of Trump and will, quite likely, end democracy as we know it in America.
 

ttystikk

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And, by the way, my state was formerly known as a swing state. Trump took it handily last election. Now there are many ways to look at this. I would say that there has been a fundamental shift in the political outlook of Americans based on any number of factors. We could debate these all night but the net sum effect is that the electorate has gotten more "conservative". I suspect that Tty would attribute this to a failure of the Democratic party to distinguish itself as sufficiently "Progressive" to mobilize the people. Yet the global political situation does not back this up in the slightest. For the most part, Western polities worldwide have shown the same trend as they have often done throughout history. The single largest reason has been concerns over immigration - regardless of whether those fears are grounded in fact. I believe I saw a recent poll showing that 56% of all American voters listed immigration as their top political issue. How, in this situation, anybody could think Medicare for all (etc.) is the solution to beating Trump is beyond my comprehension. This is the worst strategy I can imagine.

@ttystikk , for you to not believe that 40% of Americans support Trump shows that you have surrounded yourself with a bubble of people that do not represent the voters in the least. An echo chamber if you will - one that will bring us another six years of Trump and will, quite likely, end democracy as we know it in America.
No, I just live in a progressive city in a progressive State.

I'm sure I've mentioned that my precinct went 80-16 for Bernie over Hillary in the primary.

I'm also sure I've mentioned how CNN and the rest of the MSM buried those newsworthy results.
 

kkt3

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Yes once again I will say the USA is the most morally bankrupt society on the planet.

You talk about how many Americans approve of Trump. I wonder how many people from around the planet approve of Trump. As an outsider looking in, and being able to read unbiased news, I most certainly don’t.
 

Fogdog

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Yes once again I will say the USA is the most morally bankrupt society on the planet.

You talk about how many Americans approve of Trump. I wonder how many people from around the planet approve of Trump. As an outsider looking in, and being able to read unbiased news, I most certainly don’t.
most morally bankrupt on the planet?

Compared to North Korea? Or Syria? Or Putin's Russian government?

US has plenty to answer for. We have plenty of competition when it comes to assigning who is at the bottom of morality.
 

travisw

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No, I just live in a progressive city in a progressive State.

I'm sure I've mentioned that my precinct went 80-16 for Bernie over Hillary in the primary.

I'm also sure I've mentioned how CNN and the rest of the MSM buried those newsworthy results.
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Nobody buried anything.

How many people voted in your precinct?

Fort Collins has a population of around 160,000 people with what, 170 or so precincts? Isn't it more likely your precinct was too small to merit substantial discussion by CNN and the MSM?

You Bernie Bro's like to complain that Hillary Clinton got more coverage than Bernie but you always neglect to mention that vast majority of her coverage was negative. A study out of Harvard found, in fact, there was only one month (October) in all of 2015 in which she received more favorable coverage than unfavorable.

“Sanders was the most favorably reported candidate—Republican or Democratic—during the invisible primary,” the study said.

Once his campaign got off the ground, the study found the tone “shot into positive territory” before falling in October. The study attributes the slip to Sanders performance in the debates; October was also the time that the Clinton and Sanders campaigns first began attacking each other.

https://shorensteincenter.org/pre-primary-news-coverage-2016-trump-clinton-sanders/#_ftnref22
 

Unclebaldrick

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Nobody buried anything.

How many people voted in your precinct?

Fort Collins has a population of around 160,000 people with what, 170 or so precincts? Isn't it more likely your precinct was too small to merit substantial discussion by CNN and the MSM?

You Bernie Bro's like to complain that Hillary Clinton got more coverage than Bernie but you always neglect to mention that vast majority of her coverage was negative. A study out of Harvard found, in fact, there was only one month (October) in all of 2015 in which she received more favorable coverage than unfavorable.

“Sanders was the most favorably reported candidate—Republican or Democratic—during the invisible primary,” the study said.

Once his campaign got off the ground, the study found the tone “shot into positive territory” before falling in October. The study attributes the slip to Sanders performance in the debates; October was also the time that the Clinton and Sanders campaigns first began attacking each other.

https://shorensteincenter.org/pre-primary-news-coverage-2016-trump-clinton-sanders/#_ftnref22
Tty's precinct is the mostest importantest because it has a prophet who is doing homework and trying to crack open the door and organizize us.

I haven't seen a single MSM story on how Tty's precinct voted in months! That proves Hillary cheated and that there was NO CULLUSION between Donald Trump and Mr. Putin.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Yes once again I will say the USA is the most morally bankrupt society on the planet.

You talk about how many Americans approve of Trump. I wonder how many people from around the planet approve of Trump. As an outsider looking in, and being able to read unbiased news, I most certainly don’t.
there is no such thing as unbiased news, no matter where you live
 
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