Ralph Nader interviewed by Chris Hedges
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londonfog
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and what will it be replaced with...anarchy??
Rob Roy
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In a voluntary society, democracy doesn't necessarily have to cease to exist. It would simply be an option for those who desired it, but not a requirement for those who don't.
So, your limited understanding, has, no doubt, tainted your perception of what might be.
Bonus word for you - Panarchy.
So, I'll ask you, why you think a forcible democracy is the
"best system there is" ?
londonfog
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Wow you are opening my eyes. Could you share the place. location , country where this voluntary society flourishes. I would really like to study this society and compare it to the one we live in reality.
Bonus word for you- statutory rape.
Might be helpful following previous conversations
Fogdog
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Ralph is OK.
ttystikk
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He discussed several good points in the interview. Ralph has been watching the descent of the American Empire into madness from his front row seat for a long time now.
Fogdog
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Ralph is OK.
SneekyNinja
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Like when he threw an election to Dubya?
Of course youd like him, you're a Republican who wants to Nader the Democrats and ensure victories for the Party of Trump.
ttystikk
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Fogdog
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Ralph is OK
ttystikk
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Ask him how it feels to be ahead of your time.
Rob Roy
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When you say "country" I assume you mean the identity of the government in a given place right?
Isn't it self evident then ,that the presence of the government is what PREVENTS this type of voluntary society from flourishing?
Since, government's, like gangs, have a mercenary self interest in killing any alternatives that relieve them of the illegitimate authority they wield.
Statutory rape? That's a good one, double entendre too, since most statutes are akin to rape in that the underlying means used is one relying on offensive force. You're on a roll and didn't even know it, Laundry Man.
londonfog
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ummmmm you forgot to name the place
tangerinegreen555
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How can you live in this country?
If I were you, I'd just leave and start a new one. And since there will be no rule of law there, let us know where it is. We like to watch.
Rob Roy
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Didn't think your low quality extrapolative abilities would permit you to see the obstacle, (RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSE) to there being a "place" like that.
Also, you forgot to explain why you think "losing democracy" is a bad thing.
When you say "rule of law" you really mean a coercion based hierarchy which includes some people being exempt from the use of offensive force, almost like those people were the rulers and people like you were the subjects / serfs, right?
You like to watch? So that WAS you rustling in the bushes last night? I knew it.
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londonfog
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but you still didn't name the place ?
What I'm I "losing democracy" for ?
anarchy ?Well you be participating in the purge tonight ? ...as a victim
tangerinegreen555
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'Like to watch' you coerced by the outlaws who would rob you blind and leave you for dead in your lawless utopia.
Would you want cremation or burial?
Probably just leave you to rot though.
Rob Roy
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but you still didn't name the place ?
What I'm I "losing democracy" for ?
Well you be participating in the purge tonight ? ...as a victim
Except you wouldn't need to "lose" democracy if Panarchy were "permitted" You could band together with other people who needed a super daddy overlord system and chose your master, but you would have to stop pretending you had the right to chose other people's master for them. Under a forcible all encompassing democracy, everybody is forced into your cult. That's like tying up your date if she'd prefer not to be involved with you.
So, exactly where does the right of a group of people to assign a master to other individual people come from, if none of the people within the group have the right in the first place? I don't think it's possible for that to occur, without believing in two opposing things at once is it?
Participating in the purge? Is that some new kind of weight loss program?
Rob Roy
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So, aren't those things you mentioned performed on a regular ritualistic schedule by the thing you call, "government" ?
(that was a rhetorical question by the way, but if you care to rebut it ...do try)