The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

greg nr

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Two things to note about the story below. First is that it is highly likely that trump himself was an fbi informant. That would explain why he was never seriously investigated for crimes by the fbi, even though what he was doing was right out in the open. Think whitey bulger here.

Secondly, it's pretty obvious he is talking about ivanka and jared. He is going to give them blanket pardons and this is a lead up to it.

Trump: Russia 'Witch hunt' has 'devastated' and 'destroyed' lives
Source: The Hill



BY MALLORY SHELBOURNE - 05/27/18 08:56 AM EDT

President Trump on Sunday said the investigation into Russia’s election interference has "destroyed" and "devastated" lives.

"Who’s going to give back the young and beautiful lives (and others) that have been devastated and destroyed by the phony Russia Collusion Witch Hunt? They journeyed down to Washington, D.C., with stars in their eyes and wanting to help our nation...They went back home in tatters!"

8:41 AM - May 27, 2018



The president did not specify whom he was referring to, but he has repeatedly referred to the Russia probe as a "witch hunt."

Trump has recently accused the FBI of using an informant to spy on his 2016 presidential campaign, though no evidence has emerged to support the president’s assertion.

News reports show that an FBI informant met with three campaign advisors to Trump.


Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/389551-trump-russia-witch-hunt-devastated-and-destroyed-lives
 

Unclebaldrick

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That’s what he wants people to think yes: "If, I had these [Hitler’s] speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them." -Trump

While that implies he made it up himself. Now that is unlikely.

Hitler wasn't the first. I know people in real life who follow this principle but have very likely never learned enough about Hitler to know his tactics.

Narcissists suck.
 

Sativied

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Hitler wasn't the first. I know people in real life who follow this principle but have very likely never learned enough about Hitler to know his tactics.

Narcissists suck.
True, the same techniques have been used to spread Christianity for 2 millennia and were surely applied by others long before that. Putin, Erdogan and other authoritarians use it too.

It would not surprise me he literally read the nazi rule book on propaganda, but that’s not the point, nor that he is trying to be like Hitler. That meme is just one example, there are many similarities between things Trump said and Hitler and Goebbels said about propaganda. Enough to be alarmed and realize that it’s not stupidity but calculated.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The republicans will be forced to act against Trump before power changes hands in the house and senate, even if it's after the election. Trump will leave no choice in the matter, if not, war abroad, constitutional crises and civil unrest at home, it's gonna be a long hot summer in America. Open corruption and abuse of power have become the "norm" of late in America and the GOP congress a joke.

This is the culmination of a capitulation to greed and power lust, using hatred and division that has been central to the GOP strategy and that predates Nixon's "southern Strategy". The final stroke that dealt the death blow to the GOP was the Obama presidency, it drove the moderates out of the GOP (RINO's) and filled their ranks with racists and fools. No wonder Trump swept them off their feet when he dropped the dog whistle in favor of the bull horn, it was love at first sight, they were looking for someone to "channel their rage". Trump completed the transformation of the GOP to a cult of personality and racist organisation, that is corrupt to it's core, like Trump himself. The party has become a tribe, the utensil of the great white hope who is leading them and America over a cliff and into an abyss.

The methods of Hitler, Stalin and countless others are: cheating, lies, abuse and murder, Trump is no different and America is nothing special, it can happen in Washington too. Trump might murder millions instantly and make Hitler and Stalin look like amateurs, the wise know a potential mass murder when they see one and Donald has all the right ingredients. He will try to destroy America when he goes down.
 

topcat

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Two things to note about the story below. First is that it is highly likely that trump himself was an fbi informant. That would explain why he was never seriously investigated for crimes by the fbi, even though what he was doing was right out in the open. Think whitey bulger here.

Secondly, it's pretty obvious he is talking about ivanka and jared. He is going to give them blanket pardons and this is a lead up to it.


How can he pardon someone who hasn't been charged, let alone convicted? I think the family indictments will come after he is voted out for that reason. Hell, there are several ways he might not make it to the next election.
 

greg nr

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How can he pardon someone who hasn't been charged, let alone convicted? I think the family indictments will come after he is voted out for that reason. Hell, there are several ways he might not make it to the next election.
There is precedent for it. Multiple potus's have done this.

What he can't do is pardon a crime that hasn't yet been committed. So a potus can't say you are pardonned for something you might do after he leaves office.

Whenever he does it, it has to be before his term ends. Of course, he may already have done it and they are just sitting on them. If he doesn't run them through the wh lawyers, we wouldn't hear about it. There is no requirement he tell anyone or ask anyone. He just needs to write it down and sign it.
 

Unclebaldrick

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True, the same techniques have been used to spread Christianity for 2 millennia and were surely applied by others long before that. Putin, Erdogan and other authoritarians use it too.

It would not surprise me he literally read the nazi rule book on propaganda, but that’s not the point, nor that he is trying to be like Hitler. That meme is just one example, there are many similarities between things Trump said and Hitler and Goebbels said about propaganda. Enough to be alarmed and realize that it’s not stupidity but calculated.
It would surprise me if he read anything.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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How Cohen’s Money Trail Could Capsize The Donald Trump Presidency | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC
The Stormy Daniels scandal and the Mueller Russia probe appear to converge around Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen, as Stormy Daniels’ lawyer Michael Avenatti alleges corporate and foreign payments to Cohen may have entered the same account used to pay his client $130,000 in hush money. Former U.S. Attorney Randall Eliason tells Ari Melber that corporations paying Cohen might be “sleazy and unethical and the Washington swamp, but not necessarily illegal”. Rev. Al Sharpton notes that Michael Avenatti has “identified Cohen” as the person to “penetrate” to understand Trump’s exposure.
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If Trump had a brain he'd be a lot more dangerous, I think America got lucky with Donald, next time, not so much, if there is a next time that is...
 
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Sativied

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It would surprise me if he read anything.
I’m sure there’s lots to say about his lack of reading skills but not reading anything seems unrealistic. And that brings me only back to my earlier comment, suggesting he doesn’t read anything suggests he

His ex wife Ivana years ago already disclosed Trump kept a copy of Hitler’s New Order book in a cabinet next to his bed, which he confirmed to have received from Marty Davis, who also confirmed giving it. The books describes specifically the goal of specific propaganda techniques and their impact. Suggesting Trump doesn’t read anything, suggests he either has a very good memory of what others told him or he makes it up himself. I think he’s too simple for the latter too. Maybe he got the audio book version lol

When someone goes too far in ways very similar to Hitler and co it’s irrelevant whether he is directly inspired by or a reincarnation of. It’s the act and not the likeness that should not be tolerated. Whether he realizes it or not, he is following Goebbels playbook on propaganda.
 

zeddd

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It would surprise me if he read anything.
He doesn’t read but he does write, rumour has it he is writing a sequel to “tender is the night”. I believe the working title is “Russian piss whore splashdown party”
How’s Melania? STDs are troublesome
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Report: Sessions Key Witness In Robert Mueller Obstruction Probe
The New York Times reports that Trump berated Jeff Sessions and tried to get him to reverse Sessions' recusal on the Russia probe. Mueller is now investigating the incident. And Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani says they are preparing for the possibility of impeachment. Lawrence discusses with John Heilemann, Harry Litman, and Jason Johnson.
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Scott Pruitt is still in the cabinet after all his scandals for a reason, Trump will fire Sessions and replace him with Pruitt who won't need to be confirmed by the senate. Pruitt is just as greedy, vacuous and stupid as Trump.
 

greg nr

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Report: Sessions Key Witness In Robert Mueller Obstruction Probe
The New York Times reports that Trump berated Jeff Sessions and tried to get him to reverse Sessions' recusal on the Russia probe. Mueller is now investigating the incident. And Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani says they are preparing for the possibility of impeachment. Lawrence discusses with John Heilemann, Harry Litman, and Jason Johnson.
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Scott Pruitt is still in the cabinet after all his scandals for a reason, Trump will fire Sessions and replace him with Pruitt who won't need to be confirmed by the senate. Pruitt is just as greedy, vacuous and stupid as Trump.
First, they can't fire sessions and replace him with pruit. Sessions can only be replaced if he dies (watch out for those rooftops jeff), resigns voluntarily, or is removed for cause (that could be challenged in court). Otherwise it falls to internal rules of succession at the doj. The federal vacancies act is actual law, so they can't just change the rules mid stream.

Secondly, rudy is only talking about impeachment for one reason. They are trying to fire his base up to come out at the midterms and preserve the house and senate. It's part of the midterm strategy and you can hear it echo'd in a lot of campaigns already. Trump is trying to amplify that meme. His base will be upset when he is impeached, but they are indifferent about the midterms. They want to associate the two.

It might work as ridiculous as it sounds. Once the feedback loops start, and the wurlitzer kicks in, this will be at the front of every trump voters mind. They don't believe trump did anything wrong and really do see the investigations as an attempt to bring him down; illegitimately in their feeble little minds.

But feeble minds can vote here. So can russian bots. The midterms are not a sure thing. GOTV!!!!
 
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