@Pua Mana, I'm sure you'll read this thread. You really should start over and just be real with everyone. You won't make it in the seed game being fake. You need to restructure your whole marketing plan.
If I were you, I would start a thread somewhere on here or at least one of the major forums (you may have to pay advertising fees depending how you go about it) and just be real. Say something like, "Hey everyone! I'm Pua Mana. I grew up in Oregon and I've really enjoyed the cannabis plant for a long time and always had a fascination with Hawaiian genetics. I went to college on Oahu and while I was there I sought out the best genetics I could find and hooked up with some good growers and acquired seeds from the great weed I found over there and researched the history of cannabis in Hawaii for many hours and I want to make the genetics I came across available to everyone, blah blah blah blah....". And whatever else you want to say.
Then seek out some well established growers on here and offer them some tester seeds in exchange for reviews. Look for established members on here that like to grow continuous variety from multiple breeders because the fact is a lot of testers take seeds and never grow them out or never give a review. And then just let your genetics speak for themselves and improve on the stuff that is lacking from the reviews. We have at least a couple reviews in this thread (one from my buddy and one from James Lilie) and it sounds like your genetics are good. Is it good enough to keep most people coming back for more? Maybe. I don't think my buddy is going to buy anymore seeds from you, but James Lilie is. If you want to make some decent cash from this your genetics have to be good enough to get people coming back for more. I have at least a few breeders that I would literally buy up almost, if not every strain they offer because their genetics are that good. So if people are happy with your genetics, but they don't want to buy everything in your catalog then you have to up your breeding game which isn't easy and takes real time, work, intelligence and knowledge. And just be humble. Listen to the old timers and don't make up fake BS stories and/or personas. And be careful with ridiculous statements like the "old-school stuff wasn't Mexican, it was Hawaiian". That's just retarded. There's plenty of kids that know cannabis wasn't endemic to the islands and had to come from somewhere else so those strains weren't "Hawaiian". Most of the plant species that grow in Hawaii nowadays aren't Hawaiian. Statements like that to try to make your strains "more authentic" just make you look dumb.
Anyway, if you listened to any of that advise and were just humble and real with people, like actually real, no BS at all, you wouldn't have drama follow you around everywhere you go on the internet. Most people would probably give you a chance. There's always going to be a few haters so don't worry about that and just handle them with some proper poise. Don't go off and start calling them names, just stay cool and people will appreciate how you handle difficult people (honestly, this goes along way). And if something goes wrong with how you handle business, just make it right for your customers and nobody will have a bad thing to say about you. If you do all that you'll have a good chance of making it in the seed game. If you stick to your current advertising and marketing model you'll fail miserably. I'm sure there's people reading this thread and mentally logging it for the next time you pop up so it's going to take a drastic change on your part to change peoples' minds about you. And if anyone brings up all the BS you've tried to pull off in the past, like in this thread and the icmag thread just fess up and acknowledge that you needed to change how you interact with people and stop with the lies and just be real. It might take awhile, but if you're continuously real with people, people will forgive and forget the BS in time.
Anyway, take all that for what's it worth (which is actually a lot) or don't and you can have the same drama as long as your trying to sell seeds.
You guys all bum me out, I'll just have to appreciate the fact thats the seeds are from HI. Its my favorate place. Like I said I grew out some Kona Gold last year and it wasnt bax, not the best Ive ever grown, but I certainly wont critize it. If zi got suckered, I'll never know, the seeds do ship tho. I jumped on the ban wagon to get some of that Molokai Frost, the presummer order. I figure I'll dispute it with paypal if this guy fucks me, he didnt the 1st time....The comment about spotting Hawaiian genetics in veg, come on dude even I'm not that dumb and I bought seeds from Pua Mana 2x( really hoping not to be a sucker). As far as Ace goes, Ive gotten some decent stuff there. I really want to grow the purple mexican (closest to Oaxaca Highland) I can find availible commercially. I'm just about to harvest Bubblegum XL, PLC- Cobs, hydro flood and drain.
