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Lurpin

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Cc stuff is almost certainly tied to payofix. Start accepting crypto Gu~, Chinese card processors are sketchy as fuck.

I appreciate that you went out and found another one when the last ones crapped out, and it is the method I use to pay, but I think payofix, or a single employee are stealing card info.
Payofix has scam reports similar to what's going on here and some of them come from other seed banks. So from what I can see is these Chinese are targeting seed banks and people in the cannabis industry. I have to say that my card hasn't been compromised as of yet. How long did it take for you guys to notice bad transactions?
 

Tangerine_

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You guys really think this whole thing is one big set up to get back at Gu?
I really hope not but at this point there are so few confirmed facts its hard to know what to think.

And isn't there a post from Gu from way back in the beginning of April with a link to Archives IG (I think that's who it was but not sure and too tired to look) that claimed those cuts did not do well as S1s and they knew this because they'd tried themselves and had similar results we're now seeing here?

I'm trying to look at the whole picture and use some critical thinking.
If this is a big ploy to fuck Gu over why would SAG also do a big money grab on his own IG account?
And why did he stop short? The reports weren't even in yet and he had sold out. One would think if this was to get back at Gu and Logic, SAG would just stay under the radar.

I mean jeezus! I know this is a cut-throat bizz but you'd think if other breeders are behind this they'd realize the truth will eventually come out and reflect horribly on them?

Some are saying this dude Sag never even held the cuts to begin with. Is this confirmed or more speculation? To know this as fact you'd have to know this guy personal level, no?

And I don't want to add salt to anyones wounds but those of you that bought from SAG and live in unfriendly cannabis states, aren't you worried about this dude having your personal info? I know I would be really concerned with that. Even SHN states they'll use the law against anyone who files a chargeback. I'd really hate to see any other negative consequences happen to any growers...regardless of who it is or whether or not I've disagreed with them.

Does anyone have any confirmation of actual facts? Anyone speak to Gu directly yet?

And with regards to the CC issues. I contacted my bank and was assured I was protected and there was no need to cancel my card. It was huge relief because it would be a massive pain in the ass with all the automatic payments I'd have to update.
But I'm still reluctant to use it with GP. I think I'll just do money orders or preloaded cards regardless of which seedbank I use.
 

jayblaze710

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I try to avoid that idea on both sides, but my instincts say this could be some sort of revenge plot by butthurt seedbanks and/or breeders. It could happen, or maaaaybe GPS stole everyone’s cc numbers and/or mailed out bunk seeds, but didn’t steal the cash we mailed in? Makes no sense af all. None of it, not to me.
This conspiracy stuff is dumb as hell. I don’t think people give two shits about Gu. His IG presence is practically non existent. Archive sells everything out almost as soon as it drops. JJ even mentioned GPS in a high times interview in a non-derogatory way, just mentioned that GPS uses a Stardawg male in his crosses.

And if you recall, Archive tried to talk Gu out of selling the Dosidos S1’s before they were available.

Plus, if anyone was trying to fuck Gu over specifically, they’d be calling him out on IG, and informing everyone of the problems going on. The only people who even know there are problems with the S1’s are in this thread. The vast majority of people who bought them still don’t know.

SAG is just a shady individual that figured out an easy way to make a shit load of money. That Logic and Gu fell for it says more about their business practices than anything else.
 

Heisengrow

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Gu needs to scale back,drop the nuggets and all the hype and bullshit and go back to when it was just a simple website with a few strains and that's it.more.money problems and he can certainly attest to that.
I get it,hes trying to make his money while the gravy train is still on the tracks.it happens.i did it 20 years ago when I opened my first shop.i figured there is no way in hell people are gonna keep getting tattoos.figured it was just a fad that would end sooner then it started.pack a shop full of sketchy artist and end up biting a few bullets.
Gu you needs to back up and slow his role and pace himself.
Drop all the fuckin gimmicks and website pop ups and all that stupid shit.
 

GreenHighlander

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I really do not give a fuck about the S1s or some conspiracy. As has been stated the source was questionable from the beginning.
But I do know that people are being ripped for money on their CC only because they were used to buy seeds from Gu. He may of gotten taken advantage of or scammed with the S1s, he is absolutely responsible for using a service to make himself money that is scamming his customers.
That is the bottom line for me. The S1s he can, and I have no doubt he will make up for. The CC he has no control over other then stop offering a scam through his site.
Cheers :)
 

Michael Huntherz

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This conspiracy stuff is dumb as hell. I don’t think people give two shits about Gu. His IG presence is practically non existent. Archive sells everything out almost as soon as it drops. JJ even mentioned GPS in a high times interview in a non-derogatory way, just mentioned that GPS uses a Stardawg male in his crosses.

And if you recall, Archive tried to talk Gu out of selling the Dosidos S1’s before they were available.

Plus, if anyone was trying to fuck Gu over specifically, they’d be calling him out on IG, and informing everyone of the problems going on. The only people who even know there are problems with the S1’s are in this thread. The vast majority of people who bought them still don’t know.

SAG is just a shady individual that figured out an easy way to make a shit load of money. That Logic and Gu fell for it says more about their business practices than anything else.
My point is nobody actually has very many facts, not enough to put together a meaningful narrative. Can you read my post again, please? There are only so many caveats a person can make. I don’t have an opinion, just speculating less venomously than most of the bozos on this bus.

Seek first to understand.

It certainly does look like Gu got suckered by a POS scam artist, not arguing that. Totally fucked.
 

GreenHighlander

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My point is nobody actually has very many facts, not enough to put together a meaningful narrative. Can you read my post again, please? There are only so many caveats a person can make. Seek first to understand.
It is very safe to assume two facts at this point. The S1s are not what they are suppose to be and people are getting fucked on their CC because they used it to make orders from this company.
I don't see how those aren't facts at this point?
Cheers :)
 

Michael Huntherz

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Gu needs to scale back,drop the nuggets and all the hype and bullshit and go back to when it was just a simple website with a few strains and that's it.more.money problems and he can certainly attest to that.
I get it,hes trying to make his money while the gravy train is still on the tracks.it happens.i did it 20 years ago when I opened my first shop.i figured there is no way in hell people are gonna keep getting tattoos.figured it was just a fad that would end sooner then it started.pack a shop full of sketchy artist and end up biting a few bullets.
Gu you needs to back up and slow his role and pace himself.
Drop all the fuckin gimmicks and website pop ups and all that stupid shit.
I agree with you 100% on that. Simple is good. Does Amazon.com spam your screen with popups? Hell no, it gets out of your way so it can take your damn money! The popups and banners and shit are not good UI/UX.
 

Jp.the.pope

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The credit card issue was payofix. There are multiple complaints about payofix from users who did not purchase from GPS.

Google payofix scam.

Reports for non Canna business plus gyo seed bank and bonaza all on the first page.... It's essentially the same report. CC info stolen and fraudulent charges.
 

Michael Huntherz

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It is very safe to assume two facts at this point. The S1s are not what they are suppose to be and people are getting fucked on their CC because they used it to make orders from this company.
I don't see how those aren't facts at this point?
Cheers :)
The CC thing seems true, is it GPS fault, really? I agree it should be disabled, for sure.
Who all has posted males, and are we 100% sure those photos are legit?
I don’t know enough people here to know who is a reliable witness, or who is running what game...it’s all just a shitshow to me. Sure glad I got my beans first...
 

jayblaze710

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My point is nobody actually has very many facts, not enough to put together a meaningful narrative. Can you read my post again, please? There are only so many caveats a person can make. I don’t have an opinion, just speculating less venomously than most of the bozos on this bus.

Seek first to understand.

It certainly does look like Gu got suckered by a POS scam artist, not arguing that. Totally fucked.
It wasn’t meant as a comment to you specifically, just those that think some breeder was attacking Gu specifically. I know you didn’t personally subscribe to thatn
 

Lurpin

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The CC thing seems true, is it GPS fault, really? I agree it should be disabled, for sure.
Who all has posted males, and are we 100% sure those photos are legit?
I don’t know enough people here to know who is a reliable witness, or who is running what game...it’s all just a shitshow to me. Sure glad I got my beans first...
Very valid point, how has this community handled this sort of thing in the past? This isn't anything new I assume.
 

NoWaistedSpace

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The CC thing seems true, is it GPS fault, really? I agree it should be disabled, for sure.
Who all has posted males, and are we 100% sure those photos are legit?
I don’t know enough people here to know who is a reliable witness, or who is running what game...it’s all just a shitshow to me. Sure glad I got my beans first...
I had males from the Wedding Cake S1's. I contacted Greenpoint before I even knew this was going on over here on RIU.
 
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