Yes, I agree. But as I read here speeding up flowering leads to less yield/week on average. You lose more on yield then you can gain on time. I don't know, I'm asking. I think the difference is not much at the end.
It's a closet grow, one plant at a time, so I can't compare
That Was My Grow And The 1st Grow I Defoliated The 90 Cri In The 5th Week Of Flower Which Stunted Her. I Did Not Touch The 80 Cri Plus I Ran The 80 2 Weeks Longer. Now The 2nd Grow The 90 Cri Out Yielded The 80 And So Far With My Colombian Ripper Clones The 90 Is Once Again Kicking The 80 Cri Ass
WOW, good to know. Was it the more far red or simply the more red, in your opinion?That Was My Grow And The 1st Grow I Defoliated The 90 Cri In The 5th Week Of Flower Which Stunted Her. I Did Not Touch The 80 Cri Plus I Ran The 80 2 Weeks Longer. Now The 2nd Grow The 90 Cri Out Yielded The 80 And So Far With My Colombian Ripper Clones The 90 Is Once Again Kicking The 80 Cri Ass
Cheers @The DawgIn My Grow's It Was The Shift To More 660 Red. Now @GroErr Has Did Some Work With The 660's In The Am And The 730's At Light's Out On A 11.5/12.5 Light Schedule With Great Success
I stepped down from 12.5/11.5 and tried a couple of rounds at that, then 12/12, then 11.5/12.5. All with 660nm for 12 minutes before lights on, and 12 minutes of 730nm at lights out. I settled at 11.5/12.5 as that knocked an average of a week off my phenos (clones were used to gage the effects/time for consistency) but really didn't notice any loss in yields. 1 week off is almost an extra round in a year, not a bad thing. This below is my current round with 10x 2gal, 3 strains all from seed at day 42/6 weeks.
Any difference in plant height/stretching?
You do get more stretch, varies by strain like most things but definitely some extra stretch. That can be a a good or bad thing depending on the strain and even how you veg. I manage that a bit by using 5700k for clones/seedlings, then 4000k to veg, then 3500k to flower which helps a bit. You could also run 12/12 for the first 2 weeks, then switch to 11.5/12.5 but I haven't tested the results of that scenario.
Good questions, I have to circle back to trying 11.5/12.5 on it's own without initiators to determine whether they're making the bigger difference in combination with the shorter cycle time, or simply 11.5/12.5 for the main lights is the bigger contributor to knocking time off. I'm running a bunch of seeds right now for pheno hunts, when I get a round with clones where I know what to expect I'll be shutting off the initiators to see what the effects are. In the meantime I'm not complaining
Is it true for autos? I'm running an auto now(probably the last one, I don't like them). What is the good DLI for autos?
I know, but I'm a bit sceptic. Running 5 miles in 1 hour is easier than in 50 minutes. I think it's true for the plants too
same DLI as photos
That's the key. Same true for the BBer. You can reach your max potency with 3000k