USA Embassy opens in Jerusalem tomorrow

[NaturalFarmer]

No wonder these leftist cant deal with real issues. Anything that is a downer is on the ignore list.

Now then since we have established you have a working memory, let me fill you in on some history that is in the making right now, not in 1947.

Hamas isn't the Palestinian Authority. PA governs the West Bank. Hamas governs the Gaza Strip. Do they all look the alike to you? Look at the title of the wiki you posted. Palestinian Authority Martyrs fund.

It being that you are ignorant of the situation, I'll fill you in. Israel is choking off Gaza from international trade by a blockade which it claims is necessary to keep Hamas from building up it's military. The situation in Gaza is deteriorating. Food, water, medicine, all things we take for granted are hard to come by for many in Gaza. Unemployment is 50%. Hamas or no Hamas, this area is a powder keg.

Hamas is pushing for peace talks and has recognized Israel's permanent status. The old charter was replaced with a new one that looks towards peace with Israel, not its destruction. The fence that is currently under dispute was set up at a border that Israel recognizes and nobody else. Hamas has called for peaceful unarmed demonstrations, which by and large is what is going on there. One can argue that throwing rocks and burning tires isn't exactly nonviolent. Still, the UN, the European Union and NGO rights groups are accusing Israel of using excessive force against unarmed civilians. World opinion is on the side of Hamas in this one.

Whether you side with Israel or side with Hamas on this, you have to admit that the fatalities are all on the Gaza side of this dispute. Civilized people simply don't order troops to open fire on unarmed civilians. Politically, Israel has lost in the eyes of the world. Before these actions, US opinion was on the side of Israel but this can't look good to people with moderate views. Israel has already lost the majority of liberals in this country. The only large contingent that strongly supports Israel regardless of what it does are evangelist protestants -- same people who voted for Trump.

A large breach next week followed by an Israeli action to massacre unarmed people that cross a unilaterally set border is terrible to contemplate.

World opinion is jaded as is Arab opinion on the world stage fed by propaganda and hate. I am not for terrorist or terrorist activities. Civilized governments don't fund maytr funds. Hamas is pushing peace talks? Really? How so? My point about 1947 was in regards to that fake map.

Does Hamas control Gaza or does the PLO? Not that it matters but since you called me out on it

 

[Jimdamick]

Listen to this shit from Kushner, Trumps appointee to bring peace to the ME.

This asshole is going to bring peace, when he doesn't even have a security clearance because he is a lying sack of shit.
Fat fucking chance.

Listen to Kushner's mentor, that fat fuck Trump in his address to the opening of the embassy.

I'm going to go now and puke, then get fucked up

I'll be back soon to vent, because I've been pissed off all day, and it's good for my mental state to scream sometimes. (that and pot/Jameson/beer)

I apologize beforehand if I'm rude, because I think I might be, if I hear anymore shit on how Israel is justified for their murderous behavior.

 

[Rrog]

Natural Farter is still at it I see. What a shame. Full of more good advice on compost. This time in the form of political commentary. People are yawning again.

 

[Jimdamick]

Hamas isn't the Palestinian Authority. PA governs the West Bank. Hamas governs the Gaza Strip. Do they all look the alike to you? Look at the title of the wiki you posted. Palestinian Authority Martyrs fund.

It being that you are ignorant of the situation, I'll fill you in. Israel is choking off Gaza from international trade by a blockade which it claims is necessary to keep Hamas from building up it's military. The situation in Gaza is deteriorating. Food, water, medicine, all things we take for granted are hard to come by for many in Gaza. Unemployment is 50%. Hamas or no Hamas, this area is a powder keg.

Hamas is pushing for peace talks and has recognized Israel's permanent status. The old charter was replaced with a new one that looks towards peace with Israel, not its destruction. The fence that is currently under dispute was set up at a border that Israel recognizes and nobody else. Hamas has called for peaceful unarmed demonstrations, which by and large is what is going on there. One can argue that throwing rocks and burning tires isn't exactly nonviolent. Still, the UN, the European Union and NGO rights groups are accusing Israel of using excessive force against unarmed civilians. World opinion is on the side of Hamas in this one.

Whether you side with Israel or side with Hamas on this, you have to admit that the fatalities are all on the Gaza side of this dispute. Civilized people simply don't order troops to open fire on unarmed civilians. Politically, Israel has lost in the eyes of the world. Before these actions, US opinion was on the side of Israel but this can't look good to people with moderate views. Israel has already lost the majority of liberals in this country. The only large contingent that strongly supports Israel regardless of what it does are evangelist protestants -- same people who voted for Trump.

A large breach next week followed by an Israeli action to massacre unarmed people that cross a unilaterally set border is terrible to contemplate.

Well put.

Kudos

 

[NaturalFarmer]

Natural Farter is still at it I see.

Low blow bro, not cool, not cool at all. I have feelings too man.

 

[Jimdamick]

No wonder these leftist cant deal with real issues

Like climate change, the rape of our natural resources, clean air, equal civil rights for all humans, whether or not they are Muslims, women, LGBTQIAP, people of color, American Indians, for a small example, things that Conservatives, Republicans, Evangelicals, Nazis, White Supremacists (birds of the same feather?) could give two shits about.

It's the fucking Progressive Liberal that keeps this world inhabitable

 

[Fogdog]

No wonder these leftist cant deal with real issues. Anything that is a downer is on the ignore list.


World opinion is jaded as is Arab opinion on the world stage fed by propaganda and hate. I am not for terrorist or terrorist activities. Civilized governments don't fund maytr funds. Hamas is pushing peace talks? Really? How so? My point about 1947 was in regards to that fake map.

Does Hamas control Gaza or does the PLO? Not that it matters but since you called me out on it

It matters.Not just to other countries but to Israel, don't deny it. Obama's refusal to block the UN's condemnation of Israel for other crimes got their jimmies all twisted up. Following international laws regarding war crimes and killing civilians would be a good first step. Netanyahu won't, though. Not long before Israel loses the support of the US.

Civilized people don't give their soldiers the green light to shoot unarmed civilians.

 

[Rrog]

Most people think this is terrible.

Some significantly fewer amongst us thinks Israel should apply even more pressure.

This same small population once pulled the wings off bugs when they were kids.

 

[NaturalFarmer]

Like climate change, the rape of our natural resources, clean air, equal civil rights for all humans, whether or not they are Muslims, women, LGBTQIAP, people of color, American Indians, for a small example, things that Conservatives, Republicans, Evangelicals, Nazis, White Supremacists (birds of the same feather?) could give two shits about.

It's the fucking Progressive Liberal that keeps this world inhabitable

You are so fucking wrong about so much of the above that it is not even worth the time to teach you the errs of your thinking and misteaching. The sad thing is that it was probably the Democratic party that sowed most of the seeds of this hatred along with their cronies in the media and you don't even have a clue.

Just a pawn sowing more hate with misinformation. Dime a dozen on the left yet the only hail mary they have left.
By the way, you left out Libertarian. If you knew, youd know

 

[Rrog]

You talk a lot about “teaching” us.

 

[Fogdog]

You are so fucking wrong about so much of the above that it is not even worth the time to teach you the errs of your thinking and misteaching. The sad thing is that it was probably the Democratic party that sowed most of the seeds of this hatred along with their cronies in the media and you don't even have a clue.

Just a pawn sowing more hate with misinformation. Dime a dozen on the left yet the only hail mary they have left.
By the way, you left out Libertarian. If you knew, youd know

why is unthinking support for Israel and rejection of climate science common among evangelist white protestants?

 

[Fogdog]

You are so fucking wrong about so much of the above that it is not even worth the time to teach you the errs of your thinking and misteaching. The sad thing is that it was probably the Democratic party that sowed most of the seeds of this hatred along with their cronies in the media and you don't even have a clue.

Just a pawn sowing more hate with misinformation. Dime a dozen on the left yet the only hail mary they have left.
By the way, you left out Libertarian. If you knew, youd know

Libertarians are Republicans who can't admit it.

 

[NaturalFarmer]

You talk a lot about “teaching” us.

I assume you are a lost cause. TO create a thread calling out idiots who don't believe in gravity yet the audacity to reject the Nitrogen cycle and the carbon cycle. Total $#%^ing cool with me bro, there is no teaching yo self tho. Michigan public tried, Im sure.

Edited to be nicer.

It actually is funny to me that you are respected around these parts. How telling.

I bet you grow amazing herb too

 

[SneekyNinja]

Hamas isn't the Palestinian Authority. PA governs the West Bank. Hamas governs the Gaza Strip. Do they all look the alike to you? Look at the title of the wiki you posted. Palestinian Authority Martyrs fund.

It being that you are ignorant of the situation, I'll fill you in. Israel is choking off Gaza from international trade by a blockade which it claims is necessary to keep Hamas from building up it's military. The situation in Gaza is deteriorating. Food, water, medicine, all things we take for granted are hard to come by for many in Gaza. Unemployment is 50%. Hamas or no Hamas, this area is a powder keg.

Hamas is pushing for peace talks and has recognized Israel's permanent status. The old charter was replaced with a new one that looks towards peace with Israel, not its destruction. The fence that is currently under dispute was set up at a border that Israel recognizes and nobody else. Hamas has called for peaceful unarmed demonstrations, which by and large is what is going on there. One can argue that throwing rocks and burning tires isn't exactly nonviolent. Still, the UN, the European Union and NGO rights groups are accusing Israel of using excessive force against unarmed civilians. World opinion is on the side of Hamas in this one.

Whether you side with Israel or side with Hamas on this, you have to admit that the fatalities are all on the Gaza side of this dispute. Civilized people simply don't order troops to open fire on unarmed civilians. Politically, Israel has lost in the eyes of the world. Before these actions, US opinion was on the side of Israel but this can't look good to people with moderate views. Israel has already lost the majority of liberals in this country. The only large contingent that strongly supports Israel regardless of what it does are evangelist protestants -- same people who voted for Trump.

A large breach next week followed by an Israeli action to massacre unarmed people that cross a unilaterally set border is terrible to contemplate.

One of the worst parts is they won't even allow concrete through the blockade because they'll allegedly make tunnels with it.

So they destroy people's houses, infrastructure, etc and don't even allow the materials to rebuild...then they wonder why the Palestinians are angry.

 

[NaturalFarmer]

Another great example of how the Palestine government cares about their people.

How many millions are spent on tunnel operations annually? $40 million is it? Oh you didn't hear? Didn't think so.

 

[SneekyNinja]

How many million are spent on tunnel operations annually? $40 million is it? Oh you didn't hear? Didn't think so.

And without the blockade why would they need tunnels? You cuck.

I doubt your figures though, so citation required.

Supporting Israel without question harms American interests, why can't you see that?

 

[Fogdog]

I assume you are a lost cause. TO create a thread calling out idiots who don't believe in gravity yet the audacity to reject the Nitrogen cycle and the carbon cycle. Total $#%^ing cool bro, there is no teaching yo self . Michigan public tried, Im sure.

Editted to be nicer.

Ahh, well, I don't know you, all I know is you said the Palestinian Authority Martyr Fund was a Hamas initiative. By simply reading the words one should know that's not true.

With that track record, I believe you can be wrong about practically everything.

So, which side were you on?

Gravity

or

No such thing as Gravity?

 

[Sour Wreck]

Libertarians are Republicans who can't admit it.

the libertarian party platform is sure the fuck not republican. it may be conservative, but only under conservatism as in, you do what you want and must have small govt.

libertarian party platform is

pro-choice
anti-death penalty

https://www.lp.org/platform/

i have met many, many conservatards that call themselves libertarian. then i point out the party platform and morons call themselves a conservative libertarian. so they don't accept the party platform.

retards !!!!!!!

 

[Fogdog]

the libertarian party platform is sure the fuck not republican. it may be conservative, but only under conservatism as in, you do what you want and must have small govt.

libertarian party platform is

pro-choice
anti-death penalty

https://www.lp.org/platform/

i have met many, many conservatards that call themselves libertarian. then i point out the party platform and morons call themselves a conservative libertarian. so they don't accept the party platform.

retards !!!!!!!

At one time a Republican could be pro-choice and against the death penalty but not now.

Regarding that libertarian party platform.

It contained a whole lot more Republican-like policies than liberal ones. Stuff like repealing the income tax and regulating only regulators but not the miscreants that miscreanted (I know, not a word but I like it) therefore requiring that they be regulated.

 

[NaturalFarmer]

And without the blockade why would they need tunnels? You cuck.

I doubt your figures though, so citation required.

haha yeah they could just bring their rockets through the checkpoint.