Time for Democrats to Fight Dirty

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schuylaar

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UncleBuck said:
everyone is waiting for trump to leave office.

most of us hope he leaves in handcuffs, but many of us hope it;s in a bodybag
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Who ‘everyone’?..in case you haven’t noticed there’s 40% he walks on water for..last Saturday in Michigan he literally changed up policy for immigrants. And now he’s gonna make the rally rounds to sell them because it occurred to him the billions illegals pay and never receive.

Wall? What wall..?

More on what Michigan thinks:


@ttystikk thoughts?
 
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Fogdog

Fogdog

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schuylaar said:
Who ‘everyone’?..in case you haven’t noticed there’s 40% he walks on water for..last Saturday in Michigan he literally changed up policy for immigrants. And now he’s gonna make the rally rounds to sell them because it occurred to him the billions illegals pay and never receive.

Wall? What wall..?

More on what Michigan thinks:

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The Jimmy Dore show is propaganda media that serves the right wing agenda. Everything that comes from that show is suspect.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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schuylaar said:
Did you even watch to find out why blacks didn’t vote Hilly..? It’s from The NY Times..are you calling them liars?
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The Jimmy Dore show is propaganda media that serves the right wing agenda. Everything that comes from that show is suspect.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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schuylaar said:
Did you even watch to find out why blacks didn’t vote Hilly..? It’s from The NY Times..are you calling them liars?
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I'm black/brown and I'm sure I know a whole more black than you. Care to hear first hand or do you want the media to always guide you ?
Bernie is/was out of touch with Blacks/Brown. His quotes tells you as much. He is pretty much all fucking talk. Promising free shit will not always get you the votes you need. Bernie has some great ideas but he missed the mark big time when it came to actually understanding the black votes. All blacks/brown are not from the ghetto so his statement about "Whites don't know how it feels to be from the ghetto" showed his ignorance in so many ways.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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londonfog said:
I'm black/brown and I'm sure I know a whole more black than you. Care to hear first hand or do you want the media to always guide you ?
Bernie is/was out of touch with Blacks/Brown. His quotes tells you as much. He is pretty much all fucking talk. Promising free shit will not always get you the votes you need. Bernie has some great ideas but he missed the mark big time when it came to actually understanding the black votes. All blacks/brown are not from the ghetto so his statement about "Whites don't know how it feels to be from the ghetto" showed his ignorance in so many ways.
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Early in Summer of 2016, as a disappointed Sanders voter, I sought out commentary from black opinion writers and those from other groups who voted for Hillary in large numbers to find out why Bernie polled so badly with them. I quickly found, read and internalized opinion pieces saying almost exactly what you said. OK, so I should have known beforehand but I didn't. I saw where I was wrong and changed my mind.

Two full years later, these Cult of Sanders members clutch to the fake conspiracy theory of rigged and DNC collusion to explain Bernie's loss. The evidence says that Bernie lost because of exactly what you said only the same applies to women rights activists and Hispanic voters as well. Bernie and the people who couldn't learn and move on after Bernie's loss by a whopping large margin have a tin ear when it comes to issues affecting people who aren't white and for the most part, male.

Sanders mostly white supporters keep dismissing this perspective. Instead of learning and growing by accepting the truth of yours and other's words, these Sanders supporters cravenly dig in and cling to a fake conspiracy theory. It's turning them into backwards people or more likely they always have been backwards.
 
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londonfog

londonfog

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Fogdog said:
Early in Summer of 2016, as a disappointed Sanders voter, I sought out commentary from black opinion writers and those from other groups who voted for Hillary in large numbers to find out why Bernie polled so badly with them. I quickly found, read and internalized opinion pieces saying almost exactly what you said. OK, so I should have known beforehand but I didn't. I saw where I was wrong and changed my mind.

Two full years later, these Cult of Sanders members clutch to the fake conspiracy theory of rigged and DNC collusion to explain Bernie's loss. The evidence says that Bernie lost because of exactly what you said only the same applies to women rights activists and Hispanic voters as too. Bernie and the people who couldn't learn and move on after Bernie's loss by a whopping large margin have a tin ear when it comes to issues affecting people who aren't white and for the most part, male.

Sanders mostly white supporters keep dismissing this perspective. Instead of learning and growing by accepting the truth of yours and other's words, these Sanders supporters cravenly dig in and cling to a fake conspiracy theory. It's turning them into backwards people or more likely they always have been backwards.
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Berntards like to say that Bernie March with King in Selma which is a lie. He did attend the King Speech in Washington in which 200,000 others did as well. That does not make you a civil right juggernaut
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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londonfog said:
Berntards like to say that Bernie March with King in Selma which is a lie. He did attend the King Speech in Washington in which 200,000 others did as well. That does not make you a civil right juggernaut
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I always laugh when they say that.

"Yeah, but fifty years ago he once showed up"

Civil rights juggernaut, indeed
 
Terps

Terps

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Yes the left is still pushing Elizabeth Warren as they're most likely favorite for 2020 lol.... Pelosi says she will continue to be speaker and I believe it she raised like 16 mil last month. Well that and the fact the DNC is just plain corrupt. And with a tool like Perez in charge lmfao. What is the party platform agian?
 
Fogdog

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Terps said:
Yes the left is still pushing Elizabeth Warren as they're most likely favorite for 2020 lol.... Pelosi says she will continue to be speaker and I believe it she raised like 16 mil last month. Well that and the fact the DNC is just plain corrupt. And with a tool like Perez in charge lmfao. What is the party platform agian?
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LOL

A Trump supporter and Republican voter is crying over legal campaign financing raised by Warren. That's rich.

If you don't like that Warren raised 16 mil then how about a bipartisan campaign finance reform bill. It would be a nice thing to do as a last act before ceding control of Congress to Democrats. It would be nice but not necessary. Democrats will pass campaign finance reform once they've regained control of Congress.

Warren rocks and will be a good candidate for prez if she decides to run. I'd rather we find a better, younger candidate to represent Democrats in 2020 but I'd be OK if it's Warren.
 
Terps

Terps

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Fogdog said:
LOL

A Trump supporter and Republican voter is crying over legal campaign financing raised by Warren. That's rich.

If you don't like that Warren raised 16 mil then how about a bipartisan campaign finance reform bill. It would be a nice thing to do as a last act before ceding control of Congress to Democrats. It would be nice but not necessary. Democrats will pass campaign finance reform once they've regained control of Congress.

Warren rocks and will be a good candidate for prez if she decides to run. I'd rather we find a better, younger candidate to represent Democrats in 2020 but I'd be OK if it's Warren.
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Please let her run PLEASE I PRAY SHE DOES.... Talk about throwing an election away.
 
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