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londonfog

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You need to post a link to that because I've not heard anything about it.

He was on Hannity on Fox last night and said it had nothing to do with the campaign at all, that it was a private matter.
he said it this morning on Fox and Friends. Why you making excuses for this bullshit ? Sounding like a sucker who catches his wife fucking another man and then you go blame yourself or believes her when she says it will never happen again...fucking cuck
 

greg nr

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Not if campaign money was never used, which according to what they are saying now it was Trump's personal money.

Not quite. Cohen lied to his bank about what the money would be used for. Befroe trump paid him back, cohen used his own money, which he grabbed by getting a home equity loan. He lied to the bank about what he would use the money for.

That's bank fraud. Also, he lied to his bank when he transferred the money to clifford. Another fraud.

The same chain holds true when trump, though lawyers and bankers, paid cohen back, in increments.

All of that is illegal if you don't honestly disclose where the money is going and what it is being used for. Breaking the payment down to avoid detection is a form of money laundering.

So "even if" the source of the money was clean, the delivery mechanisms constitute bank fraud, money laundering, and conspiracy.
 

Sour Wreck

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Not quite. Cohen lied to his bank about what the money would be used for. Befroe trump paid him back, cohen used his own money, which he grabbed by getting a home equity loan. He lied to the bank about what he would use the money for.

That's bank fraud. Also, he lied to his bank when he transferred the money to clifford. Another fraud.

The same chain holds true when trump, though lawyers and bankers, paid cohen back, in increments.

All of that is illegal if you don't honestly disclose where the money is going and what it is being used for. Breaking the payment down to avoid detection is a form of money laundering.

So "even if" the source of the money was clean, the delivery mechanisms constitute bank fraud, money laundering, and conspiracy.
agree
 

TacoMac

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Not quite. Cohen lied to his bank about what the money would be used for. Befroe trump paid him back, cohen used his own money, which he grabbed by getting a home equity loan. He lied to the bank about what he would use the money for.
Complete garbage you just pulled out of your ass.

You don't have to explain anything to the bank when it comes to a home equity loan. It's YOUR equity. You can do whatever the hell you want with it.

I can go to my bank right now and take out a 100,000 dollar equity loan. The only thing the bank will ask me is what denomination of bills I want it in.
 

UncleBuck

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Complete garbage you just pulled out of your ass.

You don't have to explain anything to the bank when it comes to a home equity loan. It's YOUR equity. You can do whatever the hell you want with it.

I can go to my bank right now and take out a 100,000 dollar equity loan. The only thing the bank will ask me is what denomination of bills I want it in.
you can't take that $100,000 and conceal its source while giving it to a campaign as an in-kind contribution, that's a serious felony
 

Unclebaldrick

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So Trump still denies raw-dogging the hideous Stormy Daniels but admits to paying her $130,000? It sounds like our President is pretty vulnerable to blackmail and extortion. That can't be good for America.

And Cohen was just doing this "as part of his job?" How many other people are "extorting" money and other favors from our President?
 

Fogdog

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he said it this morning on Fox and Friends. Why you making excuses for this bullshit ? Sounding like a sucker who catches his wife fucking another man and then you go blame yourself or believes her when she says it will never happen again...fucking cuck
He's OK. Sometimes he thinks he's a lawyer and argues for the other side. I put him down as "mostly harmless".

LOL the cheating wife analogy is a good one.
 

TacoMac

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that NDA was designed to help or influence the campaign, giuiliani said so himself this morning
Again, no he didn't. I've searched and can't find any record of him ever saying that. (Hence why I asked for a link.) It wouldn't matter if he did as he isn't Trump.

The only thing that matters is what you can prove in court. Can you PROVE that the reason they gave her the money was because of the campaign?

No. You can't.

Trump could easily testify that he simply didn't want his wife and family to find out about the affair.

So unless somebody has Trump on tape saying something like, "If we don't pay her off, she can ruin the campaign and lose me the election" then it's all just meaningless bullshit that has no bearing on anything at all.
 

TacoMac

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giuliani literally said it this morning on fox and friends. i posted the exact quote. just google it moron.
No, he didn't. Here is what he said:

Imagine if that came out on Oct. 15, 2016 in the middle of the last debate with Hillary Clinton,” Giuliani said. “Cohen didn’t even ask. Cohen made it go away. He didn’t even ask.

The first two words make the entire statement a hypothetical statement. They have no bearing on anything.

The last highlighted statements once again clear Trump of any wrongdoing as he had absolutely no knowledge of the payment until after the fact...hypothetically.

In court, that entire statement is, at best, ambiguous and as such is worthless.

So, again, Giuliani never said, "Trump paid her off to help the campaign".
 
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