Time for Democrats to Fight Dirty

ttystikk

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civil war would be more effective
I really don't want to see that. It's unnecessary.

A war needs to be fought against the rich who would steal our democracy and bribe our politicians to legalise the corruption that lets them get away with it.

It needs to be fought on the campaign trail and at the ballot boxes.

'The Hamptons are not a defensible position' -Mark Blyth
 

Fogdog

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Fuck your Democrats. They aren't entitled to my vote. They need to EARN IT like any other party. 'Lesser of two evils' isn't good enough and never was.

If that's the best excuse they can muster they can kiss my hairy ass.

WTF ever happened to representing my best interests in Washington?!

You're a useful idiot for billionaire campaign contributors.
Keep carrying the Republican banner. Maybe they will let you attend to them in the restroom, selling aftershave and toiletries. Republicans are playing dirty politics and the propaganda you froth so much about is part of it.
 

ttystikk

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Civil war is an oxymoron.
I'll grant that you occasionally display flashes of intelligence and original thought.

This is not one of them.

About 620,000 died in the Civil War, a war fought by Americans, against Americans.

Pointless and stupid? Certainly- but very, very real. And it's a threat that, just like last time, is being made all the more real by the nation's elite. Will they do the dying? Not any more than they did last time.

It's high time for you to stop trying to jam the square pegs of reality into your round ideological hole and pay attention to what everyone else is doing.
 

ttystikk

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everyone is waiting for trump to leave office.

most of us hope he leaves in handcuffs, but many of us hope it;s in a bodybag
Just the handcuffs. The last thing this country needs is for the likes of Chump to become a fucking martyr.
 

Fogdog

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everyone is waiting for trump to leave office.

most of us hope he leaves in handcuffs, but many of us hope it;s in a bodybag
2 1/2 more years and he'll be gone.

Impeachment and removal from office isn't going to happen. Maybe a heart attack but I'm greatly anticipating him refusing to give the concession speech and Sarah Huckabee Sanders will have to do it for him.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Keep carrying the Republican banner. Maybe they will let you attend to them in the restroom, selling aftershave and toiletries. Republicans are playing dirty politics and the propaganda you froth so much about is part of it.
Your stupidity is all of our undoing.

The Democrats ARE the Republicans and the recently exposed shenanigans of the DCCC has proven it to everyone.

I'm a Progressive and there are many more like me. Your feeble smears only make you look foolish, they don't change the fact that America's Overton Window is hopelessly out of touch with the needs and desires of the vast majority of its citizens.

Your blind hatred of Bernie has clouded your vision. He's shown that once party is stripped from the conversation, people overwhelmingly want the same things from our government- and it doesn't matter if those people identify as type R or D.

Things will continue to get worse until this is finally acknowledged.

And things do indeed look to get worse;
https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/04/27/how-clintonites-are-manufacturing-faux-progressive-congressional-campaigns/

Democrats like those do not represent me and they won't get my vote. Clear enough?
 
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abandonconflict

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2 1/2 more years and he'll be gone.

Impeachment and removal from office isn't going to happen. Maybe a heart attack but I'm greatly anticipating him refusing to give the concession speech and Sarah Huckabee Sanders will have to do it for him.
Interesting perspective. It seems to me that this newest shake up of the WH legal team is a direct response to Mueller's questions being published.
 

Sour Wreck

Well-Known Member
I really don't want to see that. It's unnecessary.

A war needs to be fought against the rich who would steal our democracy and bribe our politicians to legalise the corruption that lets them get away with it.

It needs to be fought on the campaign trail and at the ballot boxes.

'The Hamptons are not a defensible position' -Mark Blyth

we should all gang up on the rich. the problem is trump supporters have a source, they call news, that is nothing more than fear tactics against progressives and state TV for the trump admin.

as long as fox news exists, stupid ass white people will exist.
 

Fogdog

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Interesting perspective. It seems to me that this newest shake up of the WH legal team is a direct response to Mueller's questions being published.
Removal from office requires 2/3 majority in the Senate. It's unlikely Democrats will gain a majority in the Senate this year and if they do it will only be by a seat or two. Maybe there's something in Mueller's investigation that might motivate a large number of Republican Senators to vote for removal from office but I'm staggered by the kind of shit they've already swallowed for Trump. I think that Mueller would have to have something like Nixon's tapes to convinced enough Republican Senators to remove Trump.

Trump could be impeached by a majority in the House but removal from office, in my opinion, is unlikely.
 

Sour Wreck

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Removal from office requires 2/3 majority in the Senate. It's unlikely Democrats will gain a majority in the Senate this year and if they do it will only be by a seat or two. Maybe there's something in Mueller's investigation that might motivate a large number of Republican Senators to vote for removal from office but I'm staggered by the kind of shit they've already swallowed for Trump. I think that Mueller would have to have something like Nixon's tapes to convinced enough Republican Senators to remove Trump.

Trump could be impeached by a majority in the House but removal from office, in my opinion, is unlikely.
unfortunately i am starting to agree with you...

i won't ever forgive trump supporters, they can ask their fake god for that.
 

abandonconflict

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Removal from office requires 2/3 majority in the Senate. It's unlikely Democrats will gain a majority in the Senate this year and if they do it will only be by a seat or two. Maybe there's something in Mueller's investigation that might motivate a large number of Republican Senators to vote for removal from office but I'm staggered by the kind of shit they've already swallowed for Trump. I think that Mueller would have to have something like Nixon's tapes to convinced enough Republican Senators to remove Trump.

Trump could be impeached by a majority in the House but removal from office, in my opinion, is unlikely.
Yeah, I can agree with that. Still, charging a sitting president with a crime is only unprecedented, not unconstitutional. Furthermore, we're already well into uncharted water. I don't think he's going to resign either. You can call tricky dick a lot of names but not stupid. He had the good sense to resign, something that I think the current president lacks. In any case, no matter how much longer his regime lasts, he will continue to be under the same sort of scrutiny as he has been since the inauguration. If he were to resign, he'd be pardoned immediately by Penice and free to tweet all day.
 
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