Glad I use phillips.
UVB/Cannabis science report
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Johnny Lawrence
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Sunboards pushed by a Meanwell 320
No pics. I mounted them to a 3x6 L aluminum frame in a 4x8 tent. It's super light for how big it is.
MichiganMedGrower
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The uv is even broken into types.
How strong at different levels?
OK. Your opinion is your own but it’s obvious you work questions backwards from the solution you want, to find the evidence that supports your preferences. I have read enough of your incessant anti LED positions and worship of cmh over the last few weeks before I re registered. See it all the time in every day life on about any subject. That’s your right. It’s my right to find the ignore function here. I have not been on this site for a couple years and had to re register. Best of luck.
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Colo MMJ
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https://www.photonfantomdesigns.com/shop/sun-board-240
How many boards? Do his boards have WAGO or clips for the wires? Thanks.
Johnny Lawrence
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Six boards, so they're all at around 50ish watts each. They emit very little heat. The boards themselves have little clips for the wires.
The guy that runs Phantom has sorta shitty customer service, but when he does eventually get back to you, he seems like a solid guy. He included enough Wagos with the order to wire up the driver. Only other thing I had to purchase besides L aluminum was a roll of 18 gauge wire that I picked up from Fry's.
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MichiganMedGrower
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Lol. I have been saying cmh 315’s are too underpowered by themselves in my opinion. And I have not spoken out against led at all. I just mentioned they are the obvious future of indoor agriculture.
Have fun wherever you go.
jimihendrix1
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Nanolux makes a DUAL ENDED 1000w CMH. Needs at least 36 inches from the top of the canopy, or the IR will burn them up in short order.
So is there any info on what this reads in uW/Cm sq reads in the 280-315 nm range @ the range of 36" you suggest? This is a thread on UV not IR but info on IR is always good.
MichiganMedGrower
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That is on the chart too. Didn’t you look at it and research further? I’m supposed to provide more help?
Kingrow1
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I feel like hps is still numero uno. I mean cmh have had a run but ive not seen anything special, leds have always struggled and when you look at the par lumens mols of hps it aint far off cmh or led.
Yeild wise no new tech has impressed me enough yet or to stop the debate. More hype than actual yeild increase.
Yeild wise no new tech has impressed me enough yet or to stop the debate. More hype than actual yeild increase.
Potmetal
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This thread is.... interesting.
Friend of mine borrowed a couple of the little vipar 300's I used for flower in a tent in the past. Used them as supp lighting with a 600 HPS in flower. I dunno if I could see any difference as I don't see his grow regularly, but he is pretty convinced that the 2 little lights made a marked improvement over HPS alone. Who knows, maybe it did. It will likely be years of further growing before I'll be solidly experienced enough to be as passionate as some folks are about any particular growing style/method/techniques/equipment.
Except Hempy Buckets lol
Friend of mine borrowed a couple of the little vipar 300's I used for flower in a tent in the past. Used them as supp lighting with a 600 HPS in flower. I dunno if I could see any difference as I don't see his grow regularly, but he is pretty convinced that the 2 little lights made a marked improvement over HPS alone. Who knows, maybe it did. It will likely be years of further growing before I'll be solidly experienced enough to be as passionate as some folks are about any particular growing style/method/techniques/equipment.
Except Hempy Buckets lol
Colo MMJ
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Burples like Vipars can generate more nodes - I have seen it in veg. Mixed with HPS in flower they might be okay but you are better off with 1000 watt HPS if you are using up 1000 watts of electricity.This thread is.... interesting.
Friend of mine borrowed a couple of the little vipar 300's I used for flower in a tent in the past. Used them as supp lighting with a 600 HPS in flower. I dunno if I could see any difference as I don't see his grow regularly, but he is pretty convinced that the 2 little lights made a marked improvement over HPS alone. Who knows, maybe it did. It will likely be years of further growing before I'll be solidly experienced enough to be as passionate as some folks are about any particular growing style/method/techniques/equipment.
Except Hempy Buckets lol
I think COBs, QB. Samsung strips can match HPS for less heat and electricity. I have no experience with CMH. I will say be very careful with your eyes and skin with CMH or any IR/UVA/UVB also metal halide. You should have eye protection and baseball caps or other hates with a brim for all lights. The caps help shade the eyes. Any sunglasses are better than no sunglasses.
Potmetal
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I'd say you're prolly right on the 1k hps. With 600+270=Yep a 1k woulda been better.
OldMedUser
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Checked out that chart and it seems MH takes the win for UVB over CMH. Would it be worth swapping out my HPS for MH the last couple of weeks I wonder? Is that what guys use those 10,000K finishing bulbs for? My 1000W MH is 7200K and I'm not impressed with it's performance as a veg light but if it will juice up my trichs it might be alright. Cheap PlantMax bulbs and I have one in 400W as well.
Yesterday I tried an old SunMaster Warm Deluxe MH bulb I bought 16 years ago and it died after 1 1/2 flower grows. I now suspect it was a bad socket at the time. Been meaning to toss it out but glad I didn't now. Fired right up but sure doesn't seem bright compared to the PlantMax but it shouldn't I guess being more for flowering but with lots of blue so it's good for veg as well. I originally bought it as a flowering light to use with my 1000W MH mag ballast.
I have one of those cheap pH/light/moisture meters I'm using to check the intensity at 1, 2 and 3ft from the center of the bulbs. I know it doesn't really give me any usable data about the quality of the light but it does register intensity so that helps. Going to put the PlantMax back in today to check it and also check my Hortilux conversion bulb in the same ballast. Then use the HPS ballast to see how the EnerG Super HPS rates too. Nice to have choices.
MichiganMedGrower
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Checked out that chart and it seems MH takes the win for UVB over CMH. Would it be worth swapping out my HPS for MH the last couple of weeks I wonder? Is that what guys use those 10,000K finishing bulbs for? My 1000W MH is 7200K and I'm not impressed with it's performance as a veg light but if it will juice up my trichs it might be alright. Cheap PlantMax bulbs and I have one in 400W as well.
Yesterday I tried an old SunMaster Warm Deluxe MH bulb I bought 16 years ago and it died after 1 1/2 flower grows. I now suspect it was a bad socket at the time. Been meaning to toss it out but glad I didn't now. Fired right up but sure doesn't seem bright compared to the PlantMax but it shouldn't I guess being more for flowering but with lots of blue so it's good for veg as well. I originally bought it as a flowering light to use with my 1000W MH mag ballast.
I have one of those cheap pH/light/moisture meters I'm using to check the intensity at 1, 2 and 3ft from the center of the bulbs. I know it doesn't really give me any usable data about the quality of the light but it does register intensity so that helps. Going to put the PlantMax back in today to check it and also check my Hortilux conversion bulb in the same ballast. Then use the HPS ballast to see how the EnerG Super HPS rates too. Nice to have choices.
Sure you can use a metal halide as a finishing bulb. Many do.
Colo MMJ
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Last week or two?
MichiganMedGrower
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Well I don’t practice this as my flower room has all different stage plants all the time but I have seen a few reports that show the same thc increase from uv the whole time and only the last 2 weeks. So they simply change bulbs.
OldMedUser
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Done the testing on the first 3 bulbs off the MH ballast and think I'll be sticking to the Hortilux Conversion bulb as it blew the others away. The scale on my light tester only goes to 2000 so by moving it back until it hit 2000 I guestimated how far off scale they were.
Bulb 1ft 2ft 3ft
SunMaster Warm Deluxe off scale 2500? 600 450
PlantMax MH 7200K off scale 3500? 1500 700
Hortilux Ultra Ace way off scale 5000? off scale 2500? 1500
Gonna have to try the same experiment with my 400W lights. Hortilux Super HPS, Gavita and a SolarMax.
Bulb 1ft 2ft 3ft
SunMaster Warm Deluxe off scale 2500? 600 450
PlantMax MH 7200K off scale 3500? 1500 700
Hortilux Ultra Ace way off scale 5000? off scale 2500? 1500
Gonna have to try the same experiment with my 400W lights. Hortilux Super HPS, Gavita and a SolarMax.