Your yield on a HLG550?

skoomd

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hybridway2 said:
Sure he did.
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Bro i linked the thread like 2 posts down. Check it out. He built a fucking proper LED strip build. He could have got 900 watts using like 6 double row strips, which wouldn't be the most uniform light in the world. But he invested WAY more cash into the light and used 36 strips to get near perfect uniformity. Most people cant run 40w sq foot of LEDs of this efficiency without significant stress/bleaching, or use of CO2. And that's because they run say 4x cobs at 150w each over a 4x4 tent, and the hotspots are no joke.

When your light is that uniform, evenly spread, and diffuse, you'll flat out have healthier plants that yield more. Because there's no hotspots causing stress, or parts of the plants getting totally different amounts of photons.. It's even been proven in several studies that having light that's more diffuse/uniform flat out boosts photosythesis, yields, crop quality, plant health, etc.

So it's honestly not that crazy that he managed to yield that well considering his setup.

But of course some HPS lovers have to be in disbelief that a guy can pull those numbers his second grow. You can doubt what you want to, but when you arent growing under a space heater that emits a spectrum that is so unnatural that it distorts the leaf sizes, internodal distance, and bud structure (this elongation means the cell structures are weaker too), yeah it might take you 5 grows to even manage anywhere near a gram per watt. But when the light is working in your favor, you just have to read the plants and grow the right strains and you will get good yields period. All the decent hps growers use crazy ass techniques that are often a bit rediculous just to utilize their inefficient HPS light.
 
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hybridway2

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skoomd said:
Bro i linked the thread like 2 posts down. Check it out. He built a fucking proper LED strip build. He could have got 900 watts using like 6 double row strips, which wouldn't be the most uniform light in the world. But he invested WAY more cash into the light and used 36 strips to get near perfect uniformity. Most people cant run 40w sq foot of LEDs of this efficiency without significant stress/bleaching, or use of CO2. And that's because they run say 4x cobs at 150w each over a 4x4 tent, and the hotspots are no joke.

When your light is that uniform, evenly spread, and diffuse, you'll flat out have healthier plants that yield more. Because there's no hotspots causing stress, or parts of the plants getting totally different amounts of photons.. It's even been proven in several studies that having light that's more diffuse/uniform flat out boosts photosythesis, yields, crop quality, plant health, etc.

So it's honestly not that crazy that he managed to yield that well considering his setup.

But of course some HPS lovers have to be in disbelief that a guy can pull those numbers his second grow. You can doubt what you want to, but when you arent growing under a space heater that emits a spectrum that is so unnatural that it distorts the leaf sizes, internodal distance, and bud structure (this elongation means the cell structures are weaker too), yeah it might take you 5 grows to even manage anywhere near a gram per watt. But when the light is working in your favor, you just have to read the plants and grow the right strains and you will get good yields period. All the decent hps growers use crazy ass techniques that are often a bit rediculous just to utilize their inefficient HPS light.
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Flarf , Larg, n a Thunder Cats Hooooeee, Snarf.
 
Toohighmf

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Can’t find your link but would love to check it out. Could you please drop the link again?
skoomd said:
Bro i linked the thread like 2 posts down. Check it out. He built a fucking proper LED strip build. He could have got 900 watts using like 6 double row strips, which wouldn't be the most uniform light in the world. But he invested WAY more cash into the light and used 36 strips to get near perfect uniformity. Most people cant run 40w sq foot of LEDs of this efficiency without significant stress/bleaching, or use of CO2. And that's because they run say 4x cobs at 150w each over a 4x4 tent, and the hotspots are no joke.

When your light is that uniform, evenly spread, and diffuse, you'll flat out have healthier plants that yield more. Because there's no hotspots causing stress, or parts of the plants getting totally different amounts of photons.. It's even been proven in several studies that having light that's more diffuse/uniform flat out boosts photosythesis, yields, crop quality, plant health, etc.

So it's honestly not that crazy that he managed to yield that well considering his setup.

But of course some HPS lovers have to be in disbelief that a guy can pull those numbers his second grow. You can doubt what you want to, but when you arent growing under a space heater that emits a spectrum that is so unnatural that it distorts the leaf sizes, internodal distance, and bud structure (this elongation means the cell structures are weaker too), yeah it might take you 5 grows to even manage anywhere near a gram per watt. But when the light is working in your favor, you just have to read the plants and grow the right strains and you will get good yields period. All the decent hps growers use crazy ass techniques that are often a bit rediculous just to utilize their inefficient HPS light.
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skoomd

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Toohighmf said:
Can’t find your link but would love to check it out. Could you please drop the link again?
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https://www.rollitup.org/t/samsung-f564b-linear-strip-build.953509/page-3

His rig is running at 55% efficiency (177 lumen/w) after driver loss just thought id share.

hybridway2 said:
Flarf , Larg, n a Thunder Cats Hooooeee, Snarf.
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Yeah I am sure that's it :roll:



There's no way larf was even 5
total crop. And that's assuming he even counted it, which who knows....


It's funny when HPS fanboys get all butthurt because they physically can't pull these kind of LED yields in the same space. I'd love to see a single hps or DEHPS grower who has pulled over 1500 grams in a 5x5 tent (let alone 4 pounds), I dont even care if that includes larf. 1800 grams of straight larf in a 5x5 tent isnt even doable with HPS. (Which is funny because you're crying over a massive LED yield that's almost entirely rock hard top shelf bud because it may or may not contain some tiny amount of larf.)


You won't find any who have though. Or if there is one out there, I'd love to hear how many thousands of dollars worth of AC they had to pump in there to keep those orange emitted space heaters cool enough.
 
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skoomd

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Toohighmf said:
@skoomd thank you. That’s really impressive. I’m 2 weeks flipped with 9x hlg550s in a 160sq’ room and I don’t see how I could run any more light than that. I’m 3’ off the canopy and honestly pretty scared to get any lower when I’m already dimmed 25% (halfway). View attachment 4116941
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Hell of a room you're running!

You're running at 28w sq/ft in there if you were at full power. I wouldnt worry much about turning them up a good bit until the plants adjust, then going full blast after that.

35w sq/ft is where my 2 tents run at under samsung strips. i wouldnt want to use any more as the plants i grew for my first run under them were visibly hitting their limits. Ill see how my new seedlings do under my other samsung strips i got in my sig. My goal is to hit damn near 600 grams.
 
a mongo frog

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skoomd said:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/samsung-f564b-linear-strip-build.953509/page-3

His rig is running at 55% efficiency (177 lumen/w) after driver loss just thought id share.



Yeah I am sure that's it :roll:



There's no way larf was even 5
total crop. And that's assuming he even counted it, which who knows....


It's funny when HPS fanboys get all butthurt because they physically can't pull these kind of LED yields in the same space. I'd love to see a single hps or DEHPS grower who has pulled over 1500 grams in a 5x5 tent (let alone 4 pounds), I dont even care if that includes larf. 1800 grams of straight larf in a 5x5 tent isnt even doable with HPS. (Which is funny because you're crying over a massive LED yield that's almost entirely rock hard top shelf bud because it may or may not contain some tiny amount of larf.)


You won't find any who have though. Or if there is one out there, I'd love to hear how many thousands of dollars worth of AC they had to pump in there to keep those orange emitted space heaters cool enough.
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Im not sure if that pic is 4 pounds. You really think it is? I wonder if the guy showed what his final product looked like of top his shelf buds? Bet he did not. I could be wrong though, but probably not.
If you could post a link to a pic of what his bud ended up looking like. Thanks.
 
Toohighmf

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skoomd said:
Hell of a room you're running!

You're running at 28w sq/ft in there if you were at full power. I wouldnt worry much about turning them up a good bit until the plants adjust, then going full blast after that.

35w sq/ft is where my 2 tents run at under samsung strips. i wouldnt want to use any more as the plants i grew for my first run under them were visibly hitting their limits. Ill see how my new seedlings do under my other samsung strips i got in my sig. My goal is to hit damn near 600 grams.
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Thanks! There’s a 20”x20’ center aisle/walkway, but yeah, I’d say in some places I’m 28 and others as much as 32. I spaced things out at different dimensions to see what works best. I’m only dimmed 25% and color has been great once I kept my temps over 80. Gonna Drop my lights at the end of the week to 24” and see how it goes. There was a really long 6 week veg and some of my plants are already 4’ (topped 5x). A bit more stretch than I expected but I also had the lights 4’ off the canopy at flip. Live and learn.
 
skoomd

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a mongo frog said:
Im not sure if that pic is 4 pounds. You really think it is? I wonder if the guy showed what his final product looked like of top his shelf buds? Bet he did not. I could be wrong though, but probably not.
If you could post a link to a pic of what his bud ended up looking like. Thanks.
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Yeah dude, I can see that being 4 lbs. Especially after seeing how dense my shit gets with LED, and how dense those buds look. Without pictures if weigh in's who knows for sure though.
 
skoomd

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a mongo frog said:
Im not sure if that pic is 4 pounds. You really think it is? I wonder if the guy showed what his final product looked like of top his shelf buds? Bet he did not. I could be wrong though, but probably not.
If you could post a link to a pic of what his bud ended up looking like. Thanks.
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If this gives you a good comparison, growmau5 ran a 4x7' grow (28 sq feet) which is almost the same as a 5x5.


He ended up with 1657 grams, same 1.9 gram per watt range as the other guy

His buds frankly didnt even look as big as @Takeshy



People gotta stop being so skeptical about these LEDs. Especially with such a good setup like the one in that 5x5.
 
Michael Huntherz

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skoomd said:
If this gives you a good comparison, growmau5 ran a 4x7' grow (28 sq feet) which is almost the same as a 5x5.


He ended up with 1657 grams, same 1.9 gram per watt range as the other guy

His buds frankly didnt even look as big as @Takeshy



People gotta stop being so skeptical about these LEDs. Especially with such a good setup like the one in that 5x5.
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For real man, growmau5’s YouTube channel alone has more than enough evidence that this debate should be over. Some folks will take their hot orange lightbulbs with them to the grave.
 
since1991

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a mongo frog said:
Im not sure if that pic is 4 pounds. You really think it is? I wonder if the guy showed what his final product looked like of top his shelf buds? Bet he did not. I could be wrong though, but probably not.
If you could post a link to a pic of what his bud ended up looking like. Thanks.
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Honestly that does not in no way look like a 4 pounder. But hell...ive been wrong before. But personally...that pic is 4 elbows? Hell naw.
 
skoomd

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Michael Huntherz said:
For real man, growmau5’s YouTube channel alone has more than enough evidence that this debate should be over. Some folks will take their hot orange lightbulbs with them to the grave.
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since1991 said:
Honestly that does not in no way look like a 4 pounder. But hell...ive been wrong before. But personally...that pic is 4 elbows? Hell naw.
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I really think it could be 4 pounds!

Here's a 2.77lb grow on week 10 of flower in a 5x5 tent under a 1000w hps





And looking at growmau5's harvest video up there in pretty much the same space with the same amount of leds, I can totally see that being a 4 pound pull. Those colas look rock hard.

I wish he took some weigh in pictures and posted them for confirmation. Cough @Takeshy Cough
 
since1991

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skoomd said:
I really think it could be 4 pounds!

Here's a 2.77lb grow on week 10 of flower in a 5x5 tent under a 1000w hps





And looking at growmau5's harvest video up there in pretty much the same space with the same amount of leds, I can totally see that being a 4 pound pull. Those colas look rock hard.

I wish he took some weigh in pictures and posted them for confirmation. Cough @Takeshy Cough
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Are you sure your scales aren't off? No offense bro but that crop does not look like almost 3 pounds. No way. Hell I am prolly all wrong. Hell I don't know anymore. These forum pix can mean anything these days.
 
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