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RetiredGuerilla
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Outer Space is the lie. The earth is beneath a firmament.
ttystikk
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240,000 miles (on average) is so much larger than Earth's 7917 miles that you just don't get the chance to see around the edge.
The phase is determined by the moon's relative position to the sun is our perspective. My question to you is why WOULDN'T the entire Earth see the same phase of the moon?
ttystikk
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Our physics squares well with what we have seen and experienced. All these alternative theories need an alternative physics to go with them and that just never adds up.
Why do people need to see conspiracies in our knowledge of the universe? Isn't it already strange and wondrous enough?
RetiredGuerilla
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If the earth were a globe we would not all see the same moon phase due to perspective. EXAMPLE: If the sun was illuminating the moon's surface it's phases would vary depending on your location on the "globe". Allegedly, the moon is 1/3 the size of earth and 240,000 miles away. If this were so Alaska would see a different moon phase than South Africa. It gives off its own light that is cooling and doesn't reflect the heat of the sun. The Mayans mastered the firmament dome which is just a big clock. Therefore they referred to themselves as the masters of time. The heavens are of intelligent design put there for man to use by the creator. So we can count the days months and years to celebrate seasonal festivals. Visit Stonehenge on the spring equinox you can party and smoke weed with modern day Druids and revelers.
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RetiredGuerilla
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Alternative theories? ALTERNATIVE PHYSICS???? Like water making a 360 degree curve to form a globe? Yeah that's alternative all right.
Globetards!! Water forming a 360 curve defies the laws of physics. The freemasons are laughing at the masses for being so ignorant. Good luck recreating a globe earth in a lab. Where as the flat earth model could be done quite easily.
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Beachwalker
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What physics? .. and what does it "square well" with? Perhaps with the other things they've told us to believe?
And what about the physics that prove the exact opposite of what they tell us? ..should we just ignore those results?
I'll offer one quick example: mass and density can be proved all day, but no one's ever proven 'gravity' once.
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SageFromZen
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I'm no Theologian but the Biblical story of Elijah being taken into the heavens in a flaming chariot certainly draws suspicion for me. I mean, what words would one use back then to describe an alien craft? Me thinks a "flaming chariot" is an alien vessel of some kind. I haven't even seen flaming chariots on acid after eating a half a dozen oranges and peaking so somebody somewhere physically saw something and needed a word or a term to describe it.
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SageFromZen
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The story of Moses and the burning bush is some pretty creepy shit too. It doesn't burn out; it talks; it gives instructions; shows him visions and knows of people(Hebrews) being held as slaves in a far away land called Egypt. Dude... seriously?!
Sounds more to me like Moses was one of the first recipients of a new iPhone. There is no doubt that what was taken for being the voice of God was actually Siri offering Moses directions to the Gaza strip and any mention of Hebrew slaves at all is directly related to roadwork creating heavy traffic highlighted in red and yellow along the way.
Sounds more to me like Moses was one of the first recipients of a new iPhone. There is no doubt that what was taken for being the voice of God was actually Siri offering Moses directions to the Gaza strip and any mention of Hebrew slaves at all is directly related to roadwork creating heavy traffic highlighted in red and yellow along the way.
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Beachwalker
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The root words on the 'Chariots of Fire' is roughly translated 'vehicles of power', or powered vehicles
Another interesting occurrence is Ezekiel's wheel, the description is of resemblance to a Roman soldiers shield moving on its side, or what we might call a disc flying horizontally
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Roger A. Shrubber
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well he's talking to god...is god supposed to appear on a turtle's shell?
they were in the desert, you got rocks and a few bushes....what else is god going to appear on?
the flaming chariot sounds appropriate for a heavenly vehicle to me. you're picking one instance out of a book full of "miracles" and deciding that it must mean aliens visited the earth at the time of this books writing?
God created earth, he made a 100 year old man and a 90 year old woman have a child, he parted the red sea for moses,
he fed the israelites in the desert, he made a whale swallow jonah, then spit him out in good shape three days later,
he made Mary conceive while a virgin, he saved Daniel from the lions, he saved Shadrach, Mesach, and Abednego from the fiery furnace..........and you pick this one instance out of this book of "Miracles" to prove that aliens visited.....?
try harder
they were in the desert, you got rocks and a few bushes....what else is god going to appear on?
the flaming chariot sounds appropriate for a heavenly vehicle to me. you're picking one instance out of a book full of "miracles" and deciding that it must mean aliens visited the earth at the time of this books writing?
God created earth, he made a 100 year old man and a 90 year old woman have a child, he parted the red sea for moses,
he fed the israelites in the desert, he made a whale swallow jonah, then spit him out in good shape three days later,
he made Mary conceive while a virgin, he saved Daniel from the lions, he saved Shadrach, Mesach, and Abednego from the fiery furnace..........and you pick this one instance out of this book of "Miracles" to prove that aliens visited.....?
try harder
Beachwalker
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Alright, I'll be back when we start talking UFOs again..!
LOL!(btw I gave two instances)
Also it never says "whale", that's just more common mythology like the legendary apple in the garden. It says "Leviathan", it describes the interior as having metal rib-like structures, it's some type of a craft, possibly a USO.
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MichiganMedGrower
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Alright, I'll be back when we start talking UFOs again..!
(btw I gave two instances)
Also it never says "whale", that's just more common mythology like the legendary apple in the garden. It says "Leviathan", it describes the interior as having metal rib-like structures, it's some type of a craft, possibly a USO.
It says dag gadol which means great fish in Hebrew.
No reference to metal structures either.
Are any references that the flat earth believers use actually true?
Also there were two actual instances where people have been swallowed by whales whole and found alive a few days later.
You can create ball lightning in a lab.Alternative theories? ALTERNATIVE PHYSICS???? Like water making a 360 degree curve to form a globe? Yeah that's alternative all right.
GoRealUhGro
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The bible is not by far, or even close to the first book to describe the lookds sounds, actions, or purpose of heavenly vehicles interacting with people or just being seen.. Many many religions have descriptions of crafts of some kind visiting for what ever purpose... Some of them have even matched the description that a different religion describes.. And sone cases even has somewhat of the same purpose... I will admit that seems like folklore being passed down and rewritten the way they want it to.. But that isnt always the case when someone hasnt even seen a different civilization or group of people other than themselves and they have the same records as the others... Jacob latter has always interested me some... Not the most though.. I like reading or learing about civilizations that have never really had influence from outside presence...i cant exactly remember what place it was.. But a few google searches should figure it out.. But i think the case was something like this... We went to drop off food to some island or jungle inhabitants for one reason or another... We flew it in on planes.. The people were so confused and didnt understand that a lot of them thought we were gods of some kind basically.. They obviously wanted us to return because of the gifts we brought but they didnt really know how... So we became an almost religious experience to them.. They built planes from wood and sticks and put them all over on the ground.. Kinda like how many other religions build things they say their gods came in.. Vimanas are an example of many..
GoRealUhGro
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I think we missed the boat on being able to study unprogressed peoples.. Instead we invaded or try to indoctrinate our religion onto them.. Not just us..and not just recently.. It has always been that way.. But it would be nice to be able to study more in depth "untouched" or uninfluenced groups of people without them knowing.. It seems very sneaky and wrong but not nearly as bad as the way we have gathered information in the past..and thats just from what we know of scientists and gov doing
Beachwalker
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I must admit I speak from memory, I haven't cracked a Bible in well over a decade. I'll look into the meaning where I got metallic ribs this weekend
Okay I remember (I mixed up Leviathan with Jonas story above), has to do with this verse and the word bars, if I recall my cult has a specific teaching on this which I'm not at liberty to divulge LOL just kidding, kinda.
Some of my teachers taught this as an example of the 3-day death/resurrection that billions of Christians around the world are celebrating this weekend
Context considered, Jonah wasn't in the "great fish" the whole time. He was down at the bottom of the ocean, in the weeds, like I am now
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Roger A. Shrubber
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well, i guess you're right, i don't know how hard it is to develop ftl, but i'm pretty sure it's not easy to defeat one of the prime laws of physics.
as an object approaches the speed of light, it's mass increases infinitely, so the energy needed to propel it increases infinitely. that's a hell of a problem. any race that's been able to solve that one, probably isn't too concerned about our hayseed, hillbilly asses.
they can control forces that would fry out little world like a cinder. they could explode our star. anyone that can control that much energy has very little to be concerned about from anyone that can't.
as an object approaches the speed of light, it's mass increases infinitely, so the energy needed to propel it increases infinitely. that's a hell of a problem. any race that's been able to solve that one, probably isn't too concerned about our hayseed, hillbilly asses.
they can control forces that would fry out little world like a cinder. they could explode our star. anyone that can control that much energy has very little to be concerned about from anyone that can't.
Beachwalker
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Or they could just send a virus.
..if you look up the origin of the Grim Reaper figure you'll see it came out of Europe during the time of the black plague, or at least many reports of folklore from the time that says this
.. they were said to be seen on the outskirts of town with some kind of a metallic wand (which, overtime somehow morphed into the syth) spraying some type of substance at sunset
Shortly after that that town would be decimated by the ravages of the Black Plague ?
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