Official Novichok Dissent Thread

[ttystikk]

The story of the former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter's poisoning just seems to get less and less believable the longer it sits, like a dead fish on the beach.

After all this time, no discussion of the medical condition of either victim. No discussion of the medical status of the policeman who found them at all, including whether it might be related or not.

Even stranger, the free admission that a doctor who arrived at the scene within minutes of their discovery has been absolutely unaffected.

Yet, the official narrative that 'Russia did it!!' is unsupported by facts or by the chemical weapons experts themselves.

Worse, the official story will brook no dissent; anyone crass enough to dare ask for actual evidence is immediately smeared as a Russian sympathizer, witness Jeremy Corbyn's treatment in recent days.

This whole thing stinks. It stinks of another thin excuse to start yet another war or to justify expanding one, the most obvious candidate being Syria where the Russian backed Assad regime clearly has the upper hand.

We aren't being told the whole truth. In fact, we are arguably not being told any of it.

Links to follow.

 

[ttystikk]

https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/the-british-governments-russia-nerve-agent-claims-are-bullshit-a69b4ee484ce

The OPCW is the official international organization created to oversee chemical weapons around the world. They certified Russia as being chemical weapons free, yet somehow the United States- itself most certainly not chemical weapons free- has cast shade on this declaration, again without a single shred of evidence.

I personally know of two American chemical weapons repositories right here in Colorado; Rocky Mountain Arsenal in the Denver metro area (!) and the Pueblo Chemical Depot.

The United States is not compliant with treaties signed to decommission and destroy chemical weapons facilities, materials and munitions and therefore has reason to cast doubts on the efforts of others.

Further, the US has not used the OPCW to work with other Nations, preferring instead to pursue bilateral channels.

Lots of details in this article.

 

[ttystikk]

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/governments-decree-truth-about-skripal-dissenters-will-be-punished.html#more

Interesting opinion and commentary about the situation and political implications.

The comments section is well worth a read.

 

[ttystikk]

From the article on medium;

According to former British diplomat Craig Murray, for instance, it is more reasonable to cast the net of suspicion onto Israel [than Russia] for many of the same reasons cited by the British government:

“Israel has the nerve agents. Israel has Mossad which is extremely skilled at foreign assassinations. Theresa May claimed Russian propensity to assassinate abroad as a specific reason to believe Russia did it. Well Mossad has an even greater propensity to assassinate abroad. And while I am struggling to see a Russian motive for damaging its own international reputation so grieviously, Israel has a clear motivation for damaging the Russian reputation so grieviously. Russian action in Syria has undermined the Israeli position in Syria and Lebanon in a fundamental way, and Israel has every motive for damaging Russia’s international position by an attack aiming to leave the blame on Russia.”

 

[Fogdog]

Shit thread posted by a classic fake conspiracy addict.

0 out of three stars

would not recommend to freinds

didn't watch the video and tty's reputation for posting propaganda is well known.

 

[londonfog]

Oh my another thread by the thread master. Shame that the only responses is from OP himself.
Bump for RIU and the hits.
somebody get this man some pussy

 

[UncleBuck]

very sad thread

 

[ttystikk]

Shit thread posted by a classic fake conspiracy addict.

0 out of three stars

would not recommend to freinds

didn't watch the video and tty's reputation for posting propaganda is well known.

It wasn't a video. But it's okay if you can't read, the Chump can't either.

 

[ttystikk]

very sad thread

Even sadder comment.

Surely you can do better.

 

[schuylaar]

Even sadder comment.

Surely you can do better.

+rep

 

[Fogdog]

shitty thread

didn't watch the video

 

[zeddd]

Absolutely no evidence of Israeli involvement, shameful accusation and unfounded

 

[ttystikk]

Absolutely no evidence of Israeli involvement, shameful accusation and unfounded

Israel has access, motive and a long history of politically motivated assassination.

Russia is the only country that can prove it DOESN'T have Novichok.

Other suspects include the UK and the US. Both also have motive and opportunity.

But of course questioning the authority of official propaganda is beyond those of such limited intellect.

 

[ttystikk]

shitty thread

didn't watch the video

Oh look- bragging about being ignorant.

Such a gooooood lil American you are!

 

[Unclebaldrick]

It's official.

 

[ttystikk]

It's official.

Is that one thumb or two?

Come on man, you used to actually think before jumping on the bandwagons of idiots.

It's almost as if you WANT to be fooled.

 

[londonfog]

It's official.

Damn didn't realize that.
and since it is official...

 

[londonfog]

Is that one thumb or two?

Come on man, you used to actually think before jumping on the bandwagons of idiots.

It's almost as if you WANT to be fooled.

you sure you're not a female ??

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Do you figure all those folks are faking it? Sounds like yer buying good old fashioned russian disinformation.

America and the world are not perfect and ya don't make it that way by spreading bullshit. Someone got yer facebook feed tagged as a sucker, hide yer profile or something. Do you think Vlad is a nice guy or something, maybe he's just getting bad press?

Someone and something poisoned a lot of people in the UK centered around a former russian spy and traitor. Use Occam's razor and select the solution the requires the fewest number of assumptions.

Do you think the mainstream media is "fake news", or that this is more russian bullshit dressed up as fact, smoke mirrors and confusion. Professional journalist are incompetent or corrupt and you and Alex Jones alone can discern the truth?

Give yer head a shake Yoda, I feel the force of reason is weakening with in you, are you going over to the dark side? Has the orange emperor captured your soul, are you to be numbered among the weak minded who are in his thrall?

And no I ain't enforcing orthodoxy, just pleading for common sense. I haven't looked, but submit it to snoops to check the veracity, if ya feel the russians have been hard done by. After what the cocksuckers did to yer country, I wouldn't have any problem believing Vlad was behind the poisoning, just like the Polonium poisoning a few years ago, designed to send a message.

 

[ttystikk]

So Russia is the only major nation that actually used the duly created organization to oversee the dismantling and destruction of its chemical weapons, yet now is accused of same by several nations that did not.

Even stranger, the full weight of the propaganda machine is being brought to bear on anyone who dares question the official line, witness the heat Jeremy Corbyn took for just asking for proof of the allegations.

Classic end stage fascist disinformation campaign designed to sow division and prepare the political ground for yet more war on the soil of a hapless foreign country that had nothing to do with it.

I'm sick of endless wars in the name of 'national security' or 'humanitarian intervention'. No one is safer and there sure aren't fewer people getting killed and displaced.

It's even more amazing, nevermind disgusting that there are so many here who actually defend it. Keep feeding at the trough of blood, war pigs. You'll choke on it sooner or later.