DIY-HP-LED
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He's a traitor and is in the process of downfall, it's just a question of when, I figure it will be soon. He will serve the rest of his life, in a supermax.
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The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out
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Sour Wreck
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during the past year, i have become a supporter of the death penalty in some cases.
presidential treason is one of those cases.
fuck the supermax !!!!
DIY-HP-LED
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I figure a supermax would be better for Donald, let him rave at the walls, if he could be hung, he will be, there are tens of thousands of very clever people trying to figure out how it can be done!
Do you think the FBI is motivated to nail Trump now? He would have to disband it.
If Bob Mueller ever wanted anybody's ass, it's gotta be Trump's and even if he is fired, the democrats will hire him back after the midterms to carry on. If Trump fires Mueller, the democrats should adopt the slogan, "We will rehire Mueller if elected" and make him a special council, the remains of the GOP won't stop them.
I amazes me that there are people in your country still stupid enough to support Donald Trump, they've failed the national IQ test. Racism/ tribalism is the only Koolaid strong enough to warp peoples perspectives to such a degree that they can be talked into fucking themselves by a treasonous moron. Hate and fear makes ya stupid, Trump is living proof.
How obvious a traitor does Trump have to be and how much evidence do you need? Does Paul Ryan think he's going off into the sunset to spend Koch brothers money after this debacle? When the scale of treason becomes known, people will want to lynch Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell and few more too. The law might not be able to protect them either, we will see how serious this gets before it's over, but yer headed for trouble, too many lines have been crossed. Without a landslide in November the country is finished, the message would be you can get away with treason and nothing matters, just like Trump.
How long do you think it would take Trump to run the country into the ground if he had total power? Hint, think Venezuela
How long before yer eating grass and living huddled in cardboard boxes?
Of course he'd give Alaska back to the Russians first!
DIY-HP-LED
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I figure Sessions got a pass on firing McCabe from Mueller, McCabe will be made whole later, it's more important that Sessions stay as AG. Besides, it adds weight to the obstruction of justice case and is another nail in the coffin, Trump figures he got a win, but did he? Were the phone calls and all the pressure used to fire McCabe recorded as part of a larger obstruction of justice case? When Mueller presents his case it will go into excruciating detail and this might be part of that detail. I still figure Mueller owns Sessions for perjury and he wants him to stay out of trouble, Donald is real pissed at him for a reason and is itching for an excuse to replace him with that idiot Pruitt. Because of Sessions favorable standing with the base, his connections in the senate and GOP, Trump has to be very careful in how he deals with him.
Stormy Daniels is the wild card here, she's throwing the Donald off his stride and fucking up things I'm sure. It looks like some billionaire wants to spend a few bucks fucking over Donald and has got her back. Donald hired his best legal talent yet to defend against her, so there must be something there worth looking into, I'm sure Mueller is. Six other women who are in similar circumstances with Trump came forward to her lawyer who is no light weight himself.
Ripped Farmer
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The crazed right said that about Obama for 8 years. Some even went as far as saying he wasn't even born here. So much effort into thought and anger and he served every day of the 8 years he was elected to.
This is a ponds reflection of history repeating itself, or will be. In fact people better step the game up for next election because "porn star space wars" would sell votes at pretty much every college in america regardless of political views. Buy the rest with "full semi auto assault ghost guns" and you have yourself a 2nd term.
What Im getting at is Trump isn't going to get himself reelected. The left is going to do that for him by their own actions.
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Justin-case
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In Obama's case it was racism. Are you accussing us of being racist against rich white men?
Ripped Farmer
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Edit : I read stereotype and not racism in your post so Im off here. But i do feel there are racists that hate Trump just the same as people hated Obama for racist reasons.
Yup.
But seriously, yes. I think rich white men are stereotyped on the level that Obama experienced out right racism, and this is obviously creating the same similar hatred towards Trump for really bullshit reasons same as Obama and the bullshit racism. However, Trump is earning his whereas Obama was born with his. Plus racism is not on the level with stereotypes obviously, but again I think the two are producing a similar reaction from opposing sides.
However, its the approach I see as giving Trump the advantage in the next election. Should of been a landslide for the left after 8 years of Obama and a game show host coming to the stage for the republicans, but then they put Clinton up there and if a person couldn't see the problem(s) with that then a person is probably still in shock that Trump won, even if the win was by default. Shouldn't of even been close.
Justin-case
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Ripped Farmer
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I edited my response as I thought it was a stereotype vs racism. reading more than one thread at a time, smoking, got off track.
No, dont feel sorry for oppressed rich white men. They can buy their ass out of that.
I dont think you realize how much I am agreeing with you. Is it still about full semi autos being legal and me agreeing with that?
DIY-HP-LED
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False equivalency, there is a world of difference between Obama and Trump, Obama has character, Trump has NPD, Obama had no scandals, Trump is wallowing in them, Obama is a patriot, Trump is a traitor. You assume the majority of Americans are completely blinded by racism to the point where they will overlook treason and being controlled by a hostile foreign power is ok. A hostile foreign power that has tens of thousands of nukes pointed at you, worry about your country, loose that, and yer gun will quickly follow.
As for guns, the democrats will run candidates who fit their district, Conor Lamb showed the writing on the wall for the democrats on the issue of guns. Reasonable restrictions are popular, so are background checks, no fly, no crazies, etc, no one is going after the second amendment, yet...
Evidence based law would see severe restrictions on guns, but I'm Canadian and it's an American issue, Trump and treason against NORAD/NATO are more my thing. In Canada we had comparable gun ownership rates with the US until the 70s when America went nuts and we got sensible, the statistics speak for themselves, Google them.
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Fogdog
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I don't understand your point about rich people stereotyping. I do understand that, fair or not, white people, especially white men and less educated women turned out in big numbers for Trump because years of Obama and Clinton made them feel their position near the top of society was threatened. I see a lot of that being driven by those downtrodden rich people using their right wing media outlets to pump up the white base with fear and loathing.
Trump is not going to lose the white male and less educated women's votes to a liberal. What has happened recently is those people simply didn't turn out in large numbers for him because even they see him now as an atrocious president. If you want to talk about reflections, in Alabama and PA, we are seeing right wingers acting as a mirror image to white liberal voters staying home in the 2016 general election.
Sour Wreck
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if mueller nails trump he could run for president !!!!
Sour Wreck
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you think jeff is muellers puppet now?
Justin-case
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Some people think Sessions flipped when he recused himself from the Russia investigation.
DIY-HP-LED
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I can't see how he could avoid it, Mueller has him on multiple perjury counts and might even roll him into the conspiracy, if he doesn't play ball. McCabe was going anyway and will be taken care of, why not let Donald think he's winning, Trump would have used a refusal as an excuse to fire Sessions. Keeping Sessions in place for as long as possible is important to Mueller and I figure Sessions will be a star witness in the senate trial of Trump. Like I said, Sessions is the perfect guy for Mueller to use as a sandbag, he has support among the base and congress. Trump is very afraid of Mueller, have you noticed he hasn't given him a nickname, in fact he doesn't even mention his name, it's almost like he's so scared he can't even speak the name of his fear!
DIY-HP-LED
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Sessions is a former prosecutor, he knows when the jig is up and rolled over when confronted with perjury, when ya roll over for Mueller ya go all the way. Sessions will protect that which is important to the investigation, firing McCabe will add to the case against Trump, not detract from it. First Jeff recused himself, then he talked to Mueller and the demands for his protection and help in exchange for his freedom increased as Mueller squeezed Jeff's nuts. Jeff is Mueller's personal sandbag.
I figure Mitch and Paul know this and are ok with it, they are using Mueller against Trump too. I figure they are gonna let Mueller do Donald for them, if they ever got rid of Mueller, Trump would go off the deep end and they would have no cover with the base. If Mueller were fired, he might run as a democrat, but more likely he'd be hired by them after the midterms. The midterms might become known as the treason election, where the people get to judge if Trump committed treason.
Having Trump as president during the midterms will be a disaster for the GOP and increase their losses greatly. The real fun is about to begin in the media and courts and it's gonna continue on past the election and on into the foreseeable future.
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greg nr
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I get the sentiment, but the reality is that even if he gets to indict Trump, it will mean years of wrangling before it comes to trial.
The first thing he will have to do is get any constitutional challenges to indicting a sitting president through the scotus. The other thing he will have to do is resolve any pardons Trump issues through scotus level challenges.
Those two issues could take many, many, months if not years.
Then they have dozens of cases to litigate. Years worth.
He won't be running for office any time soon. Besides, he is a Republican but the gop wouldn't nominate him for dog catcher, let alone national office.
DIY-HP-LED
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Or the house could impeach and the senate convict in short order, a single day in fact. As soon as Mitch and Paul give the word the retirees and safe seats (or write offs) will vote as required, but it will have to be a spectacular case with lots of juicy stuff, and it will be. Mitch and Paul need the threat of Mueller at least, to keep Trump in check since they disgraced themselves in the house investigation, without Mueller, Trump would run wild. Mueller is useful to Mitch and Paul to keep Trump in check and to dispose of him, but they don't control the timing of that, only the out come.
I figure Mitch and Paul will be eager to get their hands on Mueller's report, Trump might be surprised at the reaction to it though, he's used to getting away with things, it will be "so unfair" and so swift!
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DIY-HP-LED
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I understand Mueller is investigating Trump's true hand size, in case he needs to make custom cuffs.
