I agree man. This guy is out to lunch mandating efficiencies for the free market.It forces businesses to have far more MASSIVE overheads as a result due to the initial buy in. Some may not be able to start their business as a result of the much higher initial costs for lighting alone.
Im all for LEDs and where theyre heading. Im not for taking peoples choices away using law especially when it comes to something as simple as lighting.
The price of fuel was going to rise whether cars got more efficient it not, so that argument doesn't hold water.LOL, I never said period...beware those who would sell you regulations as they most certainly have something of a monopoly in mind..
Maybe we got more efficient cars, but it is arguable that this was due to legislation. What we actually got brother, are cars that might be more efficient on gas, but that gas costs 3-4 times what it cost before the regulations. And the engines don't last near as long as the "gas" is more than 10% ethanol. It's arguable whether we got anything at all by legislation that the free market wouldn't have given us if it was what people wanted.
Now we have electric cars whose battery production causes entire cities to be complete hazardous waste lands. But those places are in China so we don't care and consider it sustainable. LOL right.
This is great for hemp in the summer.Grow massive amounts of industrial hemp for food, fuel and fiber. The sprawling root system replenishes, heals and loosens soil. This improves it and makes it fertile for the next crop chosen in the rotation. The broad leaves and roots chokes out the weeds so no need for herbicides or pesticides due to the plants built in defense system. The massive amounts of C02 in the atmosphere will be digested and give off clean air to breathe. The hemp plant can provide man with everything he needs.![]()
While there is something to be said for greenhouses, it is not true that they're always more efficient everywhere.If there was such a concern with efficiency with commercial grows, heavy energy use jurisdictions should be mandated to “greenhouse growth only”. It boggles my mind to see the carbon footprints of these massive indoor grows. They should all be banned.
Well first off like I said, you gain efficiency on the LEDs but you lose some heat byproduct. Love to see your zero loss system, sounds like unicorns. When I go out in the winter I know a winter coat is going to hold the heat in, but it is not going to heat the show if you know what I mean. Newton and stuff.The price of fuel was going to rise whether cars got more efficient it not, so that argument doesn't hold water.
Batteries can be recycled without wrecking the environment. With so many more batteries involved, it will become much easier to develop an economically viable recycling industry.
Back to energy efficiency in commercial grows, better efficiency means lower cost per unit of production, which leads to lower cost to the consumer. I fail to see how that's a bad thing?
LED lights still make heat. Heat management is central to performance and efficiency. I'm not sure where you're getting unicorns from?Well first off like I said, you gain efficiency on the LEDs but you lose some heat byproduct. Love to see your zero loss system, sounds like unicorns. When I go out in the winter I know a winter coat is going to hold the heat in, but it is not going to heat the show if you know what I mean. Newton and stuff.
It's Massachusetts, man. Relax.Cool heat your show but don't mandate that everyone else use your choice of "efficient" lighting. That is just BAD TASTE. Trust me you don't want the Hot Karl.
There is no relaxing. Every jurisdiction is used against us as a victory. You used to see that. Are you compromised?It's Massachusetts, man. Relax.
Yes EVENTUALLY that will be the case. But not for awhile considering you have to pay off an LED fixture which costs 3-4 X what HID does. Scale that upwards for commercial purposes and you can see price differences of 30-50k minimum in initial costs for lighting alone.Back to energy efficiency in commercial grows, better efficiency means lower cost per unit of production, which leads to lower cost to the consumer. I fail to see how that's a bad thing?
Yes they produce heat, although far less than HID which is why supplemental heat works best. LED crops tend to grow best at 85FLED lights still make heat. Heat management is central to performance and efficiency. I'm not sure where you're getting unicorns from?
And yes it will heat the show so no, I don't know what you mean.
Thatd be the day eh? Not any time soon. We're the red headed step child of the provinces. Perpetually shit on in every regard thanks to WynneI think hydro one offers something for changing lighting...grow lights who knows
Why supplement if you can make things work with the heat they give off?Yes they produce heat, although far less than HID which is why supplemental heat works best. LED crops tend to grow best at 85F
Don't get too upset, it probably won't stick. And even if it does, they will find ways around it.Exactly. Massachusetts just passed a law that requires grow facilities to use LED lights, and must run them at 36W/ft² or less.
I think it's a good guideline. I'm not one of those complaining about it.Don't get too upset, it probably won't stick. And even if it does, they will find ways around it.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/03/08/skeptical-led-lights-marijuana-growers-decry-lighting-efficiency-rule/AC9qm18nmfM9rgaUrl26QK/story.html
Yeah, I hear you, but they do have a good point. No other industry is being subjected to this type of ruling. Just converting parking lots would save much more energy than the entire cannabis grow industry by orders of magnitude.I think it's a good guideline. I'm not one of those complaining about it.