defoliation for a even canopy

john wishmyer

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got this mangokush that ive been vegging for a week or so noticed t got really bushy yet still small, wondering how anyone else would go about defoliating this thing in a way that i can acheive a perfect canopy
 

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john wishmyer

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right on, so keep topping it until they do is what I mean
I think you wanted to show off your awesome plant.....
hahah not a chance im honestly extremely clueless on the whole even canopy thing besides mainlining so just top the main node over n over?
 

Monster Gardens

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Chiqifella is correct! Keep topping! What I usually do is Top the plant anywhere I can see several limbs line up, this could sometimes be 3/4's of the plant! Starting early is key
 

Dynamo626

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20170419_221019.jpg 20180209_091827.jpg 20170612_085709.jpg some questions need to be asked first. how big of an area are you trying to fill? are those the only 2 plants? what is the lighting? I ask because to maximize tour harvest you need to fill the canopy. 2 plants in a 4x4 would need much more training than in a 2x4. Weak lighting favors a scrog over sog. Personaly for a even canopy i supercrop a mainline. This is 9 plants in a 4.5x4.5
 

Monster Gardens

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View attachment 4093354 View attachment 4093355 View attachment 4093356 some questions need to be asked first. how big of an area are you trying to fill? are those the only 2 plants? what is the lighting? I ask because to maximize tour harvest you need to fill the canopy. 2 plants in a 4x4 would need much more training than in a 2x4. Weak lighting favors a scrog over sog. Personaly for a even canopy i supercrop a mainline. This is 9 plants in a 4.5x4.5
Beautiful representation!
 

john wishmyer

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View attachment 4093354 View attachment 4093355 View attachment 4093356 some questions need to be asked first. how big of an area are you trying to fill? are those the only 2 plants? what is the lighting? I ask because to maximize tour harvest you need to fill the canopy. 2 plants in a 4x4 would need much more training than in a 2x4. Weak lighting favors a scrog over sog. Personaly for a even canopy i supercrop a mainline. This is 9 plants in a 4.5x4.5
my lightings 5 led bulbs n 3 cfl bulbs mainly for the purpose of vegging in door until the weather outside cleans up a bit, my plan was just to create an even canopy indoor and just put outside when the plant was to my liking,nothing fancy
 

SchmoeJoe

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Chiqifella is correct! Keep topping! What I usually do is Top the plant anywhere I can see several limbs line up, this could sometimes be 3/4's of the plant! Starting early is key
Exactly this. Look at the plant from a side profile. Look for level of the plant with the most tops at about the same hight and cut it back to that point. Once you've done that, if you want to veg it out bigger, watch out for tops that are growing out away from your main canopy. Whenever you see that cut them back to the next top that's in line with your general canopy level.

As far as cutting back as much as 3/4 of the plant it can be done but you should only do it on a plant that is thriving in every to allow it to best over come the shock of the experience. The general rule is to never remove more than 20%-30% at any one time. Once you get an idea of how the plant works you can do prunings of smaller amounts more often starting earlier so that the plant doesn't go through as much down time from the shock and so that the plant doesn't put as much effort and resources into growth that will be pruned out.
 

Edwardo Ruffian

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Chiqifella is correct! Keep topping! What I usually do is Top the plant anywhere I can see several limbs line up, this could sometimes be 3/4's of the plant! Starting early is key
What do you consider early? I topped mine (rolled off the inner top node) after the 6th node. after 2-3 weeks all pairs of branches below the top grew to be even with the tops, then they all continued growing together...
 

ANC

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I spread my outdoor plants against the wall like the tail of a peacock. We get quite an intense side lighting on the wall for a few hours each day. I train them indoors against a piece of white melamine, only takes up a few inches of floor space
 

Dynamo626

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What do you consider early? I topped mine (rolled off the inner top node) after the 6th node. after 2-3 weeks all pairs of branches below the top grew to be even with the tops, then they all continued growing together...
my first top is about 9 days from pop.
 

Monster Gardens

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What do you consider early? I topped mine (rolled off the inner top node) after the 6th node. after 2-3 weeks all pairs of branches below the top grew to be even with the tops, then they all continued growing together...
Early; As Dynamo mentioned 9-days is a good marker. From there, your goal is to stop any apical tips from developing and running on you.
 

Edwardo Ruffian

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Early; As Dynamo mentioned 9-days is a good marker. From there, your goal is to stop any apical tips from developing and running on you.
I really like when I topped, if I would have toped at 4 nodes I would have had 4 less top colas, as it is I have 10 per plant, all at a relatively even canopy. Maybe if it's a sativa leaning plant topping sooner is required to control vertical growth. My indica leaning hybrids responded very well to the first topping, stopping all top node growth till the lower nodes caught up in height.
 

Monster Gardens

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I really like when I topped, if I would have toped at 4 nodes I would have had 4 less top colas, as it is I have 10 per plant, all at a relatively even canopy. Maybe if it's a sativa leaning plant topping sooner is required to control vertical growth. My indica leaning hybrids responded very well to the first topping, stopping all top node growth till the lower nodes caught up in height.
Well put - training is definitely dependent on genetics..
 
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